Zach and the "N" word - Comments on his use of the word [Archive]

7th June 2002, 02:21

Anyone have any comment on Zach de la Rocha's use of the word "nigger?" He uses it a few times in a couple of songs. Is it OK?

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Dutch Commie

8th June 2002, 00:50

he prolly said 'nigga' but it's still a difficult topic for a white guy to use that word, for instance Eminem never uses it

Natalenko

8th June 2002, 04:41

Hahaha, Zack is half Mexican, and he only uses the word as a satire, OBVIOUSLY he never means offense. Cypress hill uses Negro as offensive all the time too "With my Magnum, taking out some negros" see, so dont get tight about it.

Optimus Prime

9th June 2002, 19:13

both of his parents are mexican

Menshevik

10th June 2002, 21:51

Natalenko, he says "takin out some hutos." i.e. "pigs" not "negros"

Rob

10th June 2002, 23:40

I think it's ok since he's clearly not racist.

Optimus Prime

11th June 2002, 15:58

actually it's taking out some putos

Menshevik

11th June 2002, 21:34

whats putos? I though the slang (in spanish) was hutos (spelled phonetically).

Optimus Prime

11th June 2002, 22:37

the word puta refers to sluts and putos is just the masculant form of the word

Menshevik

12th June 2002, 02:04

okeydoke

Lefty

12th June 2002, 02:11

whatever...its all good

anti machine

13th June 2002, 02:22

Actually, Zach has never WRITTEN a song in which he used the word nigger. Remember, Renegades was entirely cover songs. I think it is a little controversial, but he is a rather dark-skinned brotha. Plus Tom Morello is half black, and he apparently didnt have a problem with it. It was necessary to keep the cover songs in their original form. If he WAS white, then, no, he couldn't have gotten away w/ it.

14th June 2002, 03:03

Renegades was entirley covers? Huh. Guess I'm just dumb. I recognized the EPMD song, the Dylan song, the Cyrpress Hill song (umm, what else is on there?). Who originally did Tom Joad and Street Fighting Man (the two I pegged for orginals)

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Menshevik

14th June 2002, 18:57

Street Fighting Man is the Rolling Stones. Tom Joad is Bruce Springstein. Renegades of Funk is Afrika Bambaataa. You already mentioned Cypress Hill and EPMD and Bob Dylan, so I don't know the other ones.

ratm545

21st June 2002, 03:29

i definitely thought that ghost of tom joad was original, very representitive of what they usually play. i agree with how zac uses the word. he means no offense by it, so no harm.

geuvaraustralia

2nd July 2002, 13:32

It's wierd. A white person calls a black person a nigga and gets beat up or taken to court. But when a black man calls another black man a nigga, it's just a word, like man or bro. In the end it's just a word that, in some contexts, can be seen as derrogatory because the person saying it may not have the right to i.e race etc.

El Brujo

3rd July 2002, 01:24

Zach uses the word "nigga" in the cover of NWA's "Fuck tha Police", if thats what your referring to. As for the word puto, it means either "fag" or "fucker". And yes, he is 100% mexican.

Natalenko

3rd July 2002, 13:54

Oki, well he uses Fag in the cover of fuck the police, and Nigger in the How i could just kill a man feat. Cypress Hill.

He was born in LA, this makes him half mexican, also ..... WHY does it matter?

El Brujo

3rd July 2002, 20:18

Actually, he was raised in Irvine CA. The worse case of a capitalist, ultra-conservative lackey town in the world. I would know because he went to the same high school I just graduated from. Luckly his parents werent the way most people are in this town, otherwise you could bet your ass there would be no RATM.

timbaly

4th July 2002, 05:16

people get WAY TO UPTITE when someone says nigga. it means nothing when used in slang anymore just like fag, unless some hypocrit goes beserk when a non black man says it

Overdose

8th July 2002, 09:13

Don't forget Microphone Fiend, originally done by Eric B. and Rakim

Avamatha

11th July 2002, 00:23

Funny, that this word "nigger" is so bag. If I say nigger, I don't mean it by bad. Besides, it's hard to say "black skinned." Easier: nigger.

Hey, we are all humen. And as somebody said, people call eachother "Gay" or "slut", without meaning it, all the time.

Hattori Hanzo

12th July 2002, 20:54

Zach probably didn't say it to offend...

Goldfinger

27th July 2002, 18:02

Quote: from Menshevik on 7:57 pm on June 14, 2002
Street Fighting Man is the Rolling Stones. Tom Joad is Bruce Springstein. Renegades of Funk is Afrika Bambaataa. You already mentioned Cypress Hill and EPMD and Bob Dylan, so I don't know the other ones.

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