pauljpoposky
13th March 2009, 18:53
did anyone else see Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson on Larry King Live earlier this week? he made some pretty ignorant comments about a homeless-tent city in his home city. I plan on writing to Sacramento papers and a letter directly to the office of mayor, as well as blogging extensively on this issue in days to come. read Johnson's comments and tell me what you think. Here is a transcript from the show:
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Next, we're leaving the laughs behind and we're taking a serious turn. We'll go to Sacramento's tent city. Yes, it's that bad for a lot of Americans.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
VELSHI: And we're back on LARRY KING LIVE.
There is a tent city that has sprouted up in Sacramento, California.
We're talking now to Kevin Johnson.
He's the mayor of Sacramento.
He's joining us from that tent city.
Mayor Johnson, thank you for joining us.
Tell us about where you are. I see, obviously, tents around you. Give us a sense of what's going on around you.
MAYOR KEVIN JOHNSON, SACRAMENTO:
Well, we're in Sacramento, California. And we're along the American River. And right outside the American River, you can see these tents -- these camp sites behind me. And it just really goes to show that our homeless population is growing in our community and we have to get a much better handle on it.
VELSHI: How big is this?
How many people are there?
JOHNSON: We have over 200 people that are, unfortunately, camping out along the river. And I think what's happening in our city is we have to make sure that we have tough love. We have to find a balance being compassionate on one hand, and then also a zero tolerance. These are safety hazards, not just for the homeless population, but for the people who want to enjoy the river.
VELSHI: Who are these people?
Are they individuals?
Are they families?
JOHNSON: I think they come from all walks of life. There used to be a day where we thought a certain profile of the homeless population was one way. It's expanding. It's much broader than it used to be. Your seeing people who have lost their jobs, who have also lost their homes.
And when their homes have been foreclosed on, they can't find the shelter and the housing first that they would ideally like to have. So they're out here camping.
And then you're also seeing people that are renters and their landlords have lost their homes. And as a result, they're out here homeless, as well.
VELSHI: Interesting, that story about the people who have been renting who are affected by foreclosures is not one that gets told a great deal.
Mayor, why are these people camping?
Why are they not in shelters if they're -- if they're homeless?
JOHNSON: I think, you know, we typically would love to see these folks in home -- in shelters. But what's happening right now is that the increase in shelters have increased fourfold. So, A, there's not space. Number two, a lot of these people have pets and do not want to abide by the rules that go on in shelters. And then lastly, unfortunately, a lot of people don't feel comfortable in shelters. And I think that's why the tough love concept is important, that we've got to be compassionate on one hand, but we cannot have these folks living along the river.
It's a safety hazard, again, not just for them. Let me give you an example. If a fire breaks out along the river and you call the fire department, they challenges getting in. So there's an access problem. And then number two, they don't -- there's no address, so they don't know exactly where to go. And we just can't not afford not to have this in our city.
VELSHI: What is there in terms of water and sanitation in this area where they're camping?
JOHNSON: No water, no sanitation. We're not a true tent city yet. I do believe that we, as a city, need to be looking at a tent city as an option. It should be one of many options to fight the homeless challenges that we're having in our community. But this is not something that's sanctioned. We need a designated area that where we can provide water and decent, you know, sanitation and certainly waste opportunities so that we don't have debris and things like that building up along the river, which is unfortunate for everyone.
VELSHI: So you're saying that it's possible that there could be a permanent solution to this -- or at least a longer term solution -- in an area that you identify, that you can provide services and maybe security?
JOHNSON: Absolutely. I'd like -- you know, it's not -- you know, a tent city is not going to be a panacea. It's not going to solve our homeless population challenges that we're having. But it could be one of many strategic approaches that we can do, that we can take on here as a city.
I would love to see our city explore a designated area in our city where these folks here along the river would have a designated area. We have a tent city. We have three rules -- no drinking, no alcohol and no violence.
If you violate those three rules, then you're going to get, you know, unfortunately, evicted from the tent city. You also have this particular tent city really governed by the people that live there. And that certainly could be done.
And then, lastly, our concern has to be a reasonable approach, because if we have an effective tent city, you're going to have -- it's going to be a magnet. You're going to have people from all over who want to come. We've got to have a cap on it and we've got to spread the challenge throughout our region and our other local jurisdictions, not just the City of Sacramento.
VELSHI: Mayor, very quickly, do you think there's any that the -- the Obama administration is doing that is going to alleviate this problem at all or slow the growth of this tent city behind you?
JOHNSON: You know, absolutely. They're dealing with unemployment. They're dealing with foreclosures.
Let's be specific here in terms of homeless population. In the economic stimulus package, there's $2 billion that are going to go neighborhood stabilization programs that help us deal with people who've lost their homes.
In our community here in Sacramento, we're going to get an increase of $2.3 million to be able to help offset some of the homeless challenges.
So I'm very thankful for the economic stimulus package. It's the first step. It's not going to solve it all. We have to solve it locally here in our jurisdiction.
VELSHI: Mayor Kevin Johnson from Sacramento, thanks very much for joining us tonight. An interesting story. We'll continue to keep track of it.
JOHNSON: Thanks, Ali.
VELSHI: All right. Coming up, your questions and calls about money. Go to CNN.com/larryking and click on blog to tell us what you think. We'll share some of your comments later in the show.
And take our quick vote -- do you dine out less often because of the economy?
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Next, we're leaving the laughs behind and we're taking a serious turn. We'll go to Sacramento's tent city. Yes, it's that bad for a lot of Americans.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
VELSHI: And we're back on LARRY KING LIVE.
There is a tent city that has sprouted up in Sacramento, California.
We're talking now to Kevin Johnson.
He's the mayor of Sacramento.
He's joining us from that tent city.
Mayor Johnson, thank you for joining us.
Tell us about where you are. I see, obviously, tents around you. Give us a sense of what's going on around you.
MAYOR KEVIN JOHNSON, SACRAMENTO:
Well, we're in Sacramento, California. And we're along the American River. And right outside the American River, you can see these tents -- these camp sites behind me. And it just really goes to show that our homeless population is growing in our community and we have to get a much better handle on it.
VELSHI: How big is this?
How many people are there?
JOHNSON: We have over 200 people that are, unfortunately, camping out along the river. And I think what's happening in our city is we have to make sure that we have tough love. We have to find a balance being compassionate on one hand, and then also a zero tolerance. These are safety hazards, not just for the homeless population, but for the people who want to enjoy the river.
VELSHI: Who are these people?
Are they individuals?
Are they families?
JOHNSON: I think they come from all walks of life. There used to be a day where we thought a certain profile of the homeless population was one way. It's expanding. It's much broader than it used to be. Your seeing people who have lost their jobs, who have also lost their homes.
And when their homes have been foreclosed on, they can't find the shelter and the housing first that they would ideally like to have. So they're out here camping.
And then you're also seeing people that are renters and their landlords have lost their homes. And as a result, they're out here homeless, as well.
VELSHI: Interesting, that story about the people who have been renting who are affected by foreclosures is not one that gets told a great deal.
Mayor, why are these people camping?
Why are they not in shelters if they're -- if they're homeless?
JOHNSON: I think, you know, we typically would love to see these folks in home -- in shelters. But what's happening right now is that the increase in shelters have increased fourfold. So, A, there's not space. Number two, a lot of these people have pets and do not want to abide by the rules that go on in shelters. And then lastly, unfortunately, a lot of people don't feel comfortable in shelters. And I think that's why the tough love concept is important, that we've got to be compassionate on one hand, but we cannot have these folks living along the river.
It's a safety hazard, again, not just for them. Let me give you an example. If a fire breaks out along the river and you call the fire department, they challenges getting in. So there's an access problem. And then number two, they don't -- there's no address, so they don't know exactly where to go. And we just can't not afford not to have this in our city.
VELSHI: What is there in terms of water and sanitation in this area where they're camping?
JOHNSON: No water, no sanitation. We're not a true tent city yet. I do believe that we, as a city, need to be looking at a tent city as an option. It should be one of many options to fight the homeless challenges that we're having in our community. But this is not something that's sanctioned. We need a designated area that where we can provide water and decent, you know, sanitation and certainly waste opportunities so that we don't have debris and things like that building up along the river, which is unfortunate for everyone.
VELSHI: So you're saying that it's possible that there could be a permanent solution to this -- or at least a longer term solution -- in an area that you identify, that you can provide services and maybe security?
JOHNSON: Absolutely. I'd like -- you know, it's not -- you know, a tent city is not going to be a panacea. It's not going to solve our homeless population challenges that we're having. But it could be one of many strategic approaches that we can do, that we can take on here as a city.
I would love to see our city explore a designated area in our city where these folks here along the river would have a designated area. We have a tent city. We have three rules -- no drinking, no alcohol and no violence.
If you violate those three rules, then you're going to get, you know, unfortunately, evicted from the tent city. You also have this particular tent city really governed by the people that live there. And that certainly could be done.
And then, lastly, our concern has to be a reasonable approach, because if we have an effective tent city, you're going to have -- it's going to be a magnet. You're going to have people from all over who want to come. We've got to have a cap on it and we've got to spread the challenge throughout our region and our other local jurisdictions, not just the City of Sacramento.
VELSHI: Mayor, very quickly, do you think there's any that the -- the Obama administration is doing that is going to alleviate this problem at all or slow the growth of this tent city behind you?
JOHNSON: You know, absolutely. They're dealing with unemployment. They're dealing with foreclosures.
Let's be specific here in terms of homeless population. In the economic stimulus package, there's $2 billion that are going to go neighborhood stabilization programs that help us deal with people who've lost their homes.
In our community here in Sacramento, we're going to get an increase of $2.3 million to be able to help offset some of the homeless challenges.
So I'm very thankful for the economic stimulus package. It's the first step. It's not going to solve it all. We have to solve it locally here in our jurisdiction.
VELSHI: Mayor Kevin Johnson from Sacramento, thanks very much for joining us tonight. An interesting story. We'll continue to keep track of it.
JOHNSON: Thanks, Ali.
VELSHI: All right. Coming up, your questions and calls about money. Go to CNN.com/larryking and click on blog to tell us what you think. We'll share some of your comments later in the show.
And take our quick vote -- do you dine out less often because of the economy?