Watchmen

[RHIZOMES]

What did people think of this movie?

I thought it was a decent film on it's own merits, however the comic is the greatest comic ever written, so obviously it wasn't as good. It didn't have the same quality that the comic had which made me want to turn page after page after page. And it didn't really have much emotional depth, there were several scenes in the comic which sort of teared me up a little. The same scenes in the movie didn't feel moving at all. But this is all through comparing it to the comic, the people I saw it with who hadn't read the comic thought it was awesome.

[Niccolò Rossi]

I absolutely loved it. Though I've never read the Watchmen comics so I suppose that helps my perceptions of the film.

[BlackCapital]

I thought the movie was absolutely incredible. Had not read the comic entirely before hand but was familiar with it. It seems most people who have not read the comic either love it or hate it, with those who have saying it was ok.

9/10- favorite movie I've seen in a while. Rorschach and The Comedian were done great, and to me the whole film was very intriguing. My only gripes are some of the music in some of the scenes and Ozymandius seeming too villainous. Definitely will see it again.

[#FF0000]

I went in fully prepared to hate it. Ended up surprised. On it's own its a good movie, and it's a pretty good adaption too. Unfortunately, because there's so much more material in the graphic novel, the movie ended up cutting out some of my favorite scenes. I like how they handled the flashbacks and the back story too.

Sort of wish they had more scenes of Rorschach investigating in bars and all that, but eh. Still fine like this.

[RHIZOMES]

I watched it again a second time. Liked it better since I had got all the comic comparisons out of the way the first time. :lol:

[Plagueround]

Mark my words. Rorschach will be this year's fanboy costume equivalent to last year's Joker.

[brigadista]

not here yet - i can't wait....

[Sean]

Come on.... merge.

And our Rorschach was in before it was popular. I hope you don't feel compelled to change your nick because of it. Although he does smell, eat cold bean and sugar cubes and beat up lots of pimps.

[hugsandmarxism]

I went in fully prepared to hate it. Ended up surprised. On it's own its a good movie, and it's a pretty good adaption too. Unfortunately, because there's so much more material in the graphic novel, the movie ended up cutting out some of my favorite scenes. I like how they handled the flashbacks and the back story too.

Sort of wish they had more scenes of Rorschach investigating in bars and all that, but eh. Still fine like this.

I just saw it on Saturday (never having read the comic), and I was like, so THAT'S where that guy on RL with the odd name and avatar gets it from! :D I liked it alot, but wish they had more from the OTHER side of the Iron Curtin... but that's just me. 9/10.

[Sean]

Just finished the graphic novel. It might sound ridiculous, but I feel it would have been much better without any superpowers at all. I just like the idea of masked crime fighters just being psychos in costumes. Genuinely engrossing, can't wait to see the movie now!

[Sasha]

it was decent/pretty good, but not briliant... rosarch was cool though...
never read the comic so i cant make compersions with that so i'll just make comparsions with 300 and V for Vendetta and i thought the movie was less balanced/smooth than those but also more intriuging.

[Coggeh]

Unreal ! . Rorsharch was the shit !:D

I hated the dr.manhattan , he just pissed me off in the end ...kinda annoyed me :blink:

8.8/10
:)

[jake williams]

Fantastic movie.

[#FF0000]

Come on.... merge.

And our Rorschach was in before it was popular. I hope you don't feel compelled to change your nick because of it. Although he does smell, eat cold bean and sugar cubes and beat up lots of pimps.


He's also a quasi-fascist.

I actually thought I would be banned when I joined Revleft a year ago with the name.

I'll be keeping it, by the way. The name is more than just a reference to Watchmen. :P


Just finished the graphic novel. It might sound ridiculous, but I feel it would have been much better without any superpowers at all. I just like the idea of masked crime fighters just being psychos in costumes. Genuinely engrossing, can't wait to see the movie now!Well, Alan Moore wrote the comic as a send-up of the entire superhero genre, so.


I hated the dr.manhattan , he just pissed me off in the end ...kinda annoyed me :blink:Haha I loved Dr. Manhattan, just dropping some heavy scientific determinism and infinite perspective on everyone at every opportunity.

[Os Cangaceiros]

I heard that the soundtrack to this film was absurd...can anyone confirm or deny that?

[Bilan]

The sound track is fucking bizarre, but awesome. Haha 99 red balloons = wtf?!

Anyway, the film was good, but disgustingly violent.

[bellyscratch]

The sound track is fucking bizarre, but awesome. Haha 99 red balloons = wtf?!

I thought it was a weird soundtrack too, but isnt 99 red balloons a song protesting against the cold war or something like that? So it does fit in with the film in a way, it was the German version in the film too...

Anyway, I thought the film was great. Was just as good as I was expecting:thumbup:

[AntinoiteBolshevik]

I loved the movie and Hollywood has come a long way, two openly gay characters! ^_^. Awesome.

I don't like Rorschach's homophobia though, saying that the lesbian superhero was murdered because of "her own deviant lifestyle" :(. But he was meant to be a stuffy conservative so I guess I can't be angry.

Veidt was a nice strong gay hero :). I enjoyed that. And his New Karnak was totally awesome!

[h0lmes]

I thought the movie was fantastic. Not as good as the novel, but good nonetheless. Like was said before, the graphic novel is considered the greatest ever written so the movie had a lot to measure up to. I think Snyder made the best possible adaptation that could have been made.

If you haven't read the novel and you're expecting a typical action comic book movie, then you're going to be in for a surprise. This is pretty much the polar opposite of the typical comic book movies that come out of Hollywood. The "super heroes" aren't super heroes at all and there are no clear cut villains. If you like to think deeply about the media that you consume, you will enjoy this movie.

There were a couple things that I particularly enjoyed. I felt that the montage at the beginning as well as the familiar music soundtrack really brought the story down to Earth. When you watch movies like Spiderman, the Dark Knight, etc. there is a suspension of disbelief. What you are seeing when you watch these movies is a complete work of fantasy and you are consciously aware of this. With Watchmen, however, it is maybe not so much a fantasy. The montage and the music really give you a sense of "things could have been this way" or "maybe this world isn't so much different than our own". This was obviously one of Alan Moore's intentions but to be completely honest, I thought Snyder did a better job at it.

I also think that this movie could not have come out at a better time. We are living in the era of comic book movies. 20-50 years from now, that is what this time period in film making will be remembered as. Watchmen is a big step out of the box as far as the ideas that people have about super heroes as well as the movies themselves. After watching 10 years of Spiderman, Batman, Iron Man, X-Men, etc. etc. This movie is going to rattle people's cages a little bit. Again, this was one of Alan Moore's intentions but Snyder has got to be given credit for transferring these ideas to the big screen and therefore to a wider audience.

I thought the acting was a bit stiff but hell, it works with Watchmen. Watchmen the novel is a deconstruction of the super hero. Watchmen the movie is a deconstruction of the super hero movie. A lot of it can be seen as a satire of the typical comic book movie. Maybe I'm digging too deep here, but I think it works. It works in the same way Patrick Bateman serves as a satire of the stereotypical 80's yuppie.

As for Dr. Manhattan, the "man" is so powerful yet so helpless at the same time. Human beings view him as God yet he is fully aware of the fact that he is nothing like God. The fact that he can view all of time at once shows how really helpless he is. He has no choice, he has no real power. He cares about absolutely nothing as he realizes that nothing truly matters. Very nihilistic.

Fuck what a great movie. Alan Moore should stop being an elitist prick and give Snyder a pat on the back.

[#FF0000]

I loved the movie and Hollywood has come a long way, two openly gay characters! ^_^. Awesome.

I don't like Rorschach's homophobia though, saying that the lesbian superhero was murdered because of "her own deviant lifestyle" :(. But he was meant to be a stuffy conservative so I guess I can't be angry.

He's closer to being a fascist than a stuffy conservative


Veidt was a nice strong gay hero :). I enjoyed that. And his New Karnak was totally awesome!

:lol: How did you pick up on Veidt being gay? Did you notice the folder titled "BOYS" on his computer?

[ComradeOm]

A great comic book adaptation but a mediocre film. The best bits were unquestionably those where Snyder wasn't trying to translate Moore's work onto the screen panel by panel


The sound track is fucking bizarre, but awesome. Haha 99 red balloons = wtf?!Given that the film was set in the mid-eighties it was fittingly contemporary

[Charles Xavier]

I thought that the film was pretty reactionary.

[#FF0000]

I thought that the film was pretty reactionary.

Why?

[Q]

A great movie, one of the best in a long time coming out of Hollywood.

[Dhul Fiqar]

What did people think of this movie?

I thought it was a decent film on it's own merits, however the comic is the greatest comic ever written, so obviously it wasn't as good. It didn't have the same quality that the comic had which made me want to turn page after page after page. And it didn't really have much emotional depth, there were several scenes in the comic which sort of teared me up a little. The same scenes in the movie didn't feel moving at all. But this is all through comparing it to the comic, the people I saw it with who hadn't read the comic thought it was awesome.

I can tell by your avatar you are a fine judge of comics, first of all :)

I also tend to agree, the movie wasn't nearly as good as the comics, but then again I never expected it to be. I expected it to actively dickslap one of my favourite comics of all time to the poiint where I'd be driven to a homicidal rage. In fact, it was pretty damn faithful, perhaps a bit too faithful for such a short treatment because it probably made no fucking sense to people that didn't read the comics.

Like some review pointed out the revelation of who Rorschach really fell flat because most people didn't notice the bum with the sign in the background and there was no attempt made to go into his life as a transient schizophrenic soothsayer alongside his superhero career.

Also, Ozymandias was poorly handled. He was too clearly a villain, too many signs he was up to something and he just didn't come off as the same character as in the comic. And would it have hurt them to include ONE fucking sentence explaining that Ozymandias means Ramses II in Greek? Just to make that password thing a little less strained.

Anyway, awesome job with the translation, but it was never going to approach an Alan Moore comic. Show me a movie that can...

[Sean]

I just read this rather interesting piece on it, since now everyone is getting into it, it seems: The Moral Exemplars of Watchmen (http://www.hereticalideas.com/2009/03/watchmen-violence-and-vigilantism/)

[Plagueround]

I pulled a poser move and read the graphic novel the day before I saw the film, and I thought both were excellent in their own right. Obviously the depth of the graphic novel simply cannot be matched in a 2 and a half hour long film, but they did quite well adapting it. People should go see this movie for the opening montage alone.

As a side note, trailers for the new terminator, wolverine, and star trek were quite interesting. I might be going to see a lot more movies this summer than I have recently.

[Q]

As a side note, trailers for the new terminator, wolverine, and star trek were quite interesting. I might be going to see a lot more movies this summer than I have recently.

New terminator?! :confused:

[Plagueround]

New terminator?! :confused:

Terminator Salvation. Apparently it tells the story of the war of the machines, with Christian Bale as John Connor. As I understand they're approaching it as kind of a reboot for the series, which it badly needs after the terrible 3rd film.

[Q]

Terminator Salvation. Apparently it tells the story of the war of the machines, with Christian Bale as John Connor. As I understand they're approaching it as kind of a reboot for the series, which it badly needs after the terrible 3rd film.

I don't think Rise of Machines was all that bad and think that a reboot would a very bad idea. Just let this rest...

Anyway, I'm more and more inclining to go and watch the new Star Trek movie, despite my scepticism. My Trekkie heart would bleed otherwise :D

[Plagueround]

I don't think Rise of Machines was all that bad and think that a reboot would a very bad idea. Just let this rest...


I don't know man, go watch the trailers...looks like it could be really good.

[h0lmes]

I don't think Rise of Machines was all that bad and think that a reboot would a very bad idea. Just let this rest...

Anyway, I'm more and more inclining to go and watch the new Star Trek movie, despite my scepticism. My Trekkie heart would bleed otherwise :D

A reboot is very much needed after the garbage that was T3. I guess it was ok if you're into determinism but really that just contradicts the message of T2 which was "No Fate". And the acting was just awful. Even James Cameron hates it and hes the creator of the Terminator series.

With that being said, I think Star Trek looks like the movie to see this year. I like the new direction that they are taking. I was a big fan of TNG, DS9 and even Voyager but they were all really just the same formula. The original series and Enterprise were pretty much the same also only that they took place 100-200 years before all the others. This looks like something completely different and I am excited to see how it turns out.

[Das war einmal]

If you haven't read the novel and you're expecting a typical action comic book movie, then you're going to be in for a surprise.

Did I! I just watched it yesterday (on iMax, biggest screen in the country :)) and my jaw dropped a couple of times. I was expecting something completely different. Its really dark actually

[Das war einmal]

A reboot is very much needed after the garbage that was T3. I guess it was ok if you're into determinism but really that just contradicts the message of T2 which was "No Fate". And the acting was just awful. Even James Cameron hates it and hes the creator of the Terminator series.



I watched it again a while back and it was less terrible than I thought it was, the ending is pretty darn good although there were boring scenes here and there

[Killfacer]

I enjoyed the start and one character in particular (guess who...) but it turned in to a boring super hero movie with every cliche thrown in.

[Q]

but it turned in to a boring super hero movie with every cliche thrown in.

Wut? :confused:

[GPDP]

It must be because I came into the theater drunk off an MD 20/20 and two beers, but I walked out royally pissed off at Ozymandias. But pissed off in the "damn what a bastard of a villain" kind of way. Honestly, my leftist politics were just flaring up during his whole "it's human nature" speech, and Dr. Manhattan backing him up just drove me over the edge. These are the most brilliant minds in the world, and yet they can't get around the "human nature" argument, so they decide peace only comes through catastrophic human suffering. I was completely intolerable with my friends on the drive back, that's for sure.

[JimmyJazz]

The opening is probably the coolest fight scene I've ever seen in a movie.

As for Rorschach, some of the best movie protagonists of all time have been pseudo-fascists, like Travis Bickle. Or Dr. Strangelove. Or Melvin Udall.

[Killfacer]

Wut? :confused:

I liked the start because it was unusual, but it ended up full of crap stereotype villians and heroes.

[revolution inaction]

These are the most brilliant minds in the world, and yet they can't get around the "human nature" argument, so they decide peace only comes through catastrophic human suffering.

I think its because they where completely unable to relate to other people.

[revolution inaction]

I liked the start because it was unusual, but it ended up full of crap stereotype villians and heroes.

Are you watching the same movie?

[Weezer]

Am I the only one here who has read the graphic novel?

The movie looks fantastic, but I have yet to see it. :(

[Thunder]

Saw the film without reading the comic. I thought it was great.
I'm going to buy the comic soon do yall think the fact that I've already seen the movie will kinda make the comic less awesome?

[Killfacer]

Are you watching the same movie?

Yeah. Where the cleverest man alive in his stupud outfit had a stupid plot.

[Das war einmal]

So Alan Moore made this comic...and V for Vendetta? Hmm I have seen both movies but didnt read the comics,however, the conclusions are really different. I would say the whole tone of Watchmen is far more pessimistic.

[Voice_of_Reason]

I feel I need to get this out of the way, I am very surprised that any of you look up to Rorschach as any form of heroic figure.


Politically, he is both anti-communist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-communist) and anti-liberal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-liberal). Rorschach is described by Alan Moore as an extremely right-wing character.

http://www.twomorrows.com/comicbookartist/articles/09moore.html

(Lol I feel like such a hypocrite seeing as how he is my avatar, this has nothing to do with his political stance I just seem to be a fan boy of any character with a Pessimism like personality.)

[Asoka89]

Dem. Socialist review of The Watchmen: http://theactivist.org/blog/will-emmons-reviews-%E2%80%9Cwatchmen%E2%80%9D

[redSHARP]

"I did it!! I saved earth from the real ending.":laugh:- the director of Watchmen
personally i thought the movie's ending sucked ass. Veidt was terribly done and practically killed it for me. Veidt was my favorite character from the book and to see him done like that made me want to cry. beyond that, good movie with great visuals and i loved how they added the musical interludes that matched the comic.

[Communist Theory]

I just saw it on Saturday (never having read the comic), and I was like, so THAT'S where that guy on RL with the odd name and avatar gets it from! :D I liked it alot, but wish they had more from the OTHER side of the Iron Curtin... but that's just me. 9/10.
I second that.

[PC81]

Never read the novel, but watched it last week and thought it was great. Superb soundtrack, I'll buy the DVD.

[RHIZOMES]

I thought that the film was pretty reactionary.

The book, being a satire of superheroes, was saying how superheroes are used to prop up the state. Maybe or maybe not it was lost in the film adaptation but that was the intention.

[Kernewek]

I think a lot of the steriotyped charecters where intentional, as arizona said it's a satire, all the charicters where paradies of existing superheroes

also for those calling it reactionary, seems pretty critical of the macarthy witchhunts, in Under The Hood the House UnAmerican Activities Committee is blaimed both for the break up of the origional minutemen and their investigations of Mothman contributed to his mental braakdown

[an apple]

I loved the film. It's opening titles were the best I've ever seen (set to Bob Dylan's Time Are A Changin'") and create an alternate history of America.

An excellent flick. The most gory I've ever seen though.

[Sean]

The book, being a satire of superheroes, was saying how superheroes are used to prop up the state. Maybe or maybe not it was lost in the film adaptation but that was the intention.
Correct. So much of the comic was lost in the movie and I felt that the obvious batshit insanity of Rorschach wasn't emphasised in the movie enough. Yes he was a crime fighters, but in his real life he was just a nutcase Rush Limbaugh loving headcase who smelled and ran around with a "the end of the world is nigh" placard. What kind of people become superheroes? Mainly wankers that want to beat people up and not get arrested. Those that actually do give a fuck are so far removed from humanity that they no longer care about individuals. The closest thing to a real hero in the movies was night owl II and even he was just an ape of a hero (the original one) who could only get hard dressed up in his costume.

It should have focused on the riots where the police went on strike over their crime fighting antics. I thought that was hilarious.

[Pirate Utopian]

Saw it, liked it but it's not great.
Love the soundtrack though.


An excellent flick. The most gory I've ever seen though.
Just not have seen many movies.

[Invader Zim]

I thought it was boring.

Every tiome the blue guy with the dangling cock came on screen I nearly slipped into a tedium induced coma. The owl guy, and his girl friend, did very little in the film. The girl was necessary for the blue guy to get pissy and fuck off to mars, but apart from that her character was entirely irrelevent.

Anyway, my rambling aside, here is a review of the film that pretty much sums up my view: -

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[RHIZOMES]

I thought it was boring.

Every tiome the blue guy with the dangling cock came on screen I nearly slipped into a tedium induced coma. The owl guy, and his girl friend, did very little in the film. The girl was necessary for the blue guy to get pissy and fuck off to mars, but apart from that her character was entirely irrelevent.

Anyway, my rambling aside, here is a review of the film that pretty much sums up my view: -

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that video sort of sums it up.

[juozokas]

This was one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Boring, offensive, incoherent - it really was absolute shit. Some of the worst acting ever. A thousand plot holes. I went in there with high expectations as it sounded awesome but my god it was bad. :D

[Invader Zim]

I've just finished reading the comic, if the film were half as good as that, it would have been great. A pity really.

[RHIZOMES]

I've just finished reading the comic, if the film were half as good as that, it would have been great. A pity really.

The Watchmen is the best thing I have ever read, ever.

I don't think what made Watchmen the best thing I've ever read could have been adapted into a film. Terry Gilliam felt it could have only worked as a miniseries.

[Dimentio]

I liked Ozymandias and dr. Manhattan the most.

[Hoxhaist]

That alternate history was great and I loved the soundtrack

[Invader Zim]

The Watchmen is the best thing I have ever read, ever.

I don't think what made Watchmen the best thing I've ever read could have been adapted into a film. Terry Gilliam felt it could have only worked as a miniseries.

No offence AB, but while the book is good, real good, you sound like you need a read a whole lot more.