Fascist Idiots

[Communist Theory]

Why do all Fascist think all Communists are Jews?
Also I never got why Nazis don't like Jew can anyone explain for me?

[Communist Theory]

What do they think of blond hair, blue eyed, Communists?

[Tjis]

Wait, does that mean you're not being paid by the Zionist Occupational Government for promoting race mixing and anti-nationalism? You're missing out :P.

[Communist Theory]

Wait, does that mean you're not being paid by the Zionist Occupational Government for promoting race mixing and anti-nationalism? You're missing out :P.
I don't get it, also off topic. kind of

[Tjis]

more seriously though (why the hell did you post this in chit-chat anyway), jews were just the scapegoat group Hitler used, since they were the minority back then that was most easy to bash. All Neonazi groups and various other fascist tendencies just kept on doing it.

Nazi's don't believe all communists are jews, but some of them do believe that the key figures in our movement are either jews or being paid by jews to do what they do.

[Communist Theory]

I couldn't figure out to post it, but now that I think about it, it should be in Learning, if a Mod could please move it.

[Vahanian]

they hate commies because they believe in some judeo-Bolshevik conspiracy thats trying to take over the world.

[Glorious Union]

It all started when the Jews were hired in eastern Europe (more specificly Poland) way back in the medeival ages as bankers because the countrys' economies were in ruin and apparently the Jews were the best money keepers. When the people had financial problems they blamed the Jews, and they were exiled. Other European nations did not take kindly to immigrants in those days, and persecuted the exiled Jews, blaming them for all their problems.

This is also where the stereotype of "Jews horde away lots of money" comes from, because they were hired as the wealthy king's bankers.


Can't exactly remember where I read this, but I will post the name of the book when I remember.

[Tjis]

Hating Jews isn't inherently fascist by the way. Originally, the fascist party of Italy even had Jew members. Only when Hitler gained more influence over there did they start the persecution.

[Vahanian]

It all started when the Jews were hired in eastern Europe (more specificly Poland) way back in the medeival ages as bankers because the countrys' economies were in ruin and apparently the Jews were the best money keepers. When the people had financial problems they blamed the Jews, and they were exiled. Other European nations did not take kindly to immigrants in those days, and persecuted the exiled Jews, blaming them for all their problems.

This is also where the stereotype of "Jews horde away lots of money" comes from, because they were hired as the wealthy king's bankers.


Can't exactly remember where I read this, but I will post the name of the book when I remember.



i thought that it was because the Jewish people were restricted to only certain occupations and thats how the stereotype started. but im probbly wrong because i dont remember where i heard this from

[LOLseph Stalin]

Nazi's don't believe all communists are jews, but some of them do believe that the key figures in our movement are either jews or being paid by jews to do what they do.

Technically we're partly led by Jews. Marx and Trotsky were both Jews.

[Tjis]

Technically we're partly led by Jews. Marx and Trotsky were both Jews.
Eh, speak for yourself. Nobody is leading me.

[LOLseph Stalin]

Eh, speak for yourself. Nobody is leading me.

Well technically nobody is leading us, but we still follow the ideas of Jews at least.

[Tjis]

Well technically nobody is leading us, but we still follow the ideas of Jews at least.
Amongst others yes. Not that that matters at all. What counts is the idea, not who came up with it.

Anyway, the Jewish conspiracy is supposed to be bigger than that. Our entire movement is supposed to be filled with Jews influencing our every move. And it's all to promote anti-nationalism and race-mixing to make our beautiful aryan race weaker, so that in the end the Jews can rule us.
Of course, they already do, but secretly :-P.

Oh, conspiracy theories are so much fun.

[LOLseph Stalin]

Amongst others yes. Not that that matters at all. What counts is the idea, not who came up with it.

Anyway, the Jewish conspiracy is supposed to be bigger than that. Our entire movement is supposed to be filled with Jews influencing our every move. And it's all to promote anti-nationalism and race-mixing to make our beautiful aryan race weaker, so that in the end the Jews can rule us.
Of course, they already do, but secretly :-P.

Oh, conspiracy theories are so much fun.

Indeed they are. I love pissing off Americans with the classic "9/11 was an inside job" conspiracy. And yes, it's the ideas that matter, not the people.

[ComradeOm]

Why do all Fascist think all Communists are Jews?
Also I never got why Nazis don't like Jew can anyone explain for me?Anti-Semitism has been present to some degree on European society for over a millennium now and was, for a variety of reasons, acute in Europe around the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th C. It was particularly acute in Imperial Russia where anti-Semitic organisations, such as the Black Hundreds, received official backing from the Tsar. Russia had some of the strictest restrictions on Jews in the world, which were only increasing just as the rest of Europe was dismantling theirs

At the same time it was natural that Russia's large, and relatively urban, Jewish population would organise itself. Unlike other minorities within the Empire (such as Finns or Poles) the resultant Jewish Bund had no geographic, or even religious/ethnic, monopoly on Russia's Jews. As a result many joined the RSDLP directly and rose within its ranks. Prominent Jews amongst the Bolshevik leadership in 1917 include Trotsky, Kamenev, and Zinoviev - all major public figures in the revolutionary movement. Hence the fusion of traditional Russian anti-Semitism and the counter-revolutionary anti-communism (there were similar slurs about Lenin's 'mongoloid' ancestry). Judo-Bolshevikism was born and quickly spread throughout the world. In the years immediately following the Revolution it became commonplace, amongst media and governments as well as right-wing movements, to characterise the Revolution as a Jewish affair or a movement dominated by Jews

[Bilbo Baggins]

These days, fascism goes way beyond merely hating Jewish people. Now it's more focused against Muslims. Fascism today is looking more like hatred of any and all non-Christians as well as non-Caucasians.

[Rjevan]

As already partly said, Mussolini's fascist originally had no problem with Jews, this started only after Hitler's influence on Mussolini and Italy increased. But if you thin your people and your country are the most glorious on earth it's normal that at a certain point you'll start to hate all people from other countries or at least see them as inferiors.

Nazis hate Jews because in their eyes "the black haired, small, cowardly and grabby Jews" are the eternal enemy of the "blond, blue-eyed, heroic, brave noridc people", the Aryans.
This goes back to the absured theories of a mad monk and occultist, Lanz von Liebenfels, who created the idea that the blond people are the "culture bearers" (he used the swastika as their sign) who have to defeat the demon-like inferior creatures ("Schrätlinge" or "Buhläfflinge") who opress the germanic "Gottmenschen". Hitler read Lanz's magazines in his youth in Vienna and they deeply impressed him.

Besides that many Jews were very rich (because dealing with money was forbidden to all Christs in the Middle Ages, so Jews who were forbidden to become craftsmen, became merchants and "bankers") or very intellectual and in high positions. This drew the envy of many people towards the Jews and some suspected a complot. They feeled confirmed in their conspiracy theories when the faked "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" appeared, documents which proved that there's a jewish conspiracy to take over the world.

In the eyes of the Nazis this conspiracy is realised with communism, invented by the Jew Karl Marx (and the revolution led by Jews like Trotzki) and calling for Internationalism, which now has the goal to destroye the "noble bloodline of the germanic Aryans" and to cause multiculturalism. Also they are afarid of the cospiracy to destroye the "germanic" values like honor, loyality and the Christian religion so that the "evil Jews" are able to corrupt the "brave Aryans" and ultimately destroye them.

This is a very sick way of thinking but for them the Jews were the only reason for everything negative which happened and happens in the world and communism was seen as the attempt of the "jewish-bolshewik" conspiracy to take over the world.

[Communist Theory]

Ok, today in my English class for some reason people start talking about Nazis, then 2 kids started debating the good things the Nazis did (WTF?!!!) and 1 of the idiots who is going on about how genius and organized Hitler made Germany then he starts talking about how the Nazis invented the AK-47.:laugh::laugh: I literally collapsed on the floor from laughter these Nazi wannabes are so idiotic, I mean today some idiot did a Fascist salute during the Pledge of Allegiance and got suspended, I wondering wtf why do people start turning into Nazis when I become a Communist, because that's the first time I've any seen people act Nazi at my school. :confused:

[ComradeOm]

Besides that many Jews were very rich (because dealing with money was forbidden to all Christs in the Middle Ages, so Jews who were forbidden to become craftsmen, became merchants and "bankers") or very intellectual and in high positionsDon't take this stereotype at face value. Jews in Prussia, for example, were effectively a destitute underclass, while in Russia a Jew might be better off than the average peasant but no more than that


They feeled confirmed in their conspiracy theories when the faked "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" appeared, documents which proved that there's a jewish conspiracy to take over the worldIncidentally the Protocols were originally published by the Tsarist state apparatus (or at least factions heavily connected to these)

[Glorious Union]

It all started when the Jews were hired in eastern Europe (more specificly Poland) way back in the medeival ages as bankers because the countrys' economies were in ruin and apparently the Jews were the best money keepers. When the people had financial problems they blamed the Jews, and they were exiled. Other European nations did not take kindly to immigrants in those days, and persecuted the exiled Jews, blaming them for all their problems.

This is also where the stereotype of "Jews horde away lots of money" comes from, because they were hired as the wealthy king's bankers.


Can't exactly remember where I read this, but I will post the name of the book when I remember.
I remember it was a book by Chaim Potok, if anybody has heard of it, called "The Chosen". In it there is an exerpt about Jewish history, and about Poland and their financial problems.

[Kernewek]

although anti Semitism goes much further back you can't forget the importance of ww1 here

To many Germans their defeat was totally unexpected. They'd just seen off Russia and won a shit load of land in the brest litovsk treaty, thousands of troops had left the eastern front to take part in the spring offensive of 1918, in which Germany made considerable advances almost winning the war. Hell when Germany surrendered the allied forces hadn't even reached the German border. As far as many Germans where concerned the war was going well.

Of course the reality is that the spring offensive was an all or nothing attempt at winning the war before masses of US troops arrived in Europe. But as the media didn't publish any news it viewed as bad for moral the German public were blissfully unaware of how hapless the war effort now was, when the inevitable defeat came many people simply couldn't accept how suddenly they'd lost the war and believed that the war effort had been intentionally sabotaged.

Throughout the war Jews had been accused of having extra-national loyalties and became a natural target when the people wanted someone to blame, as the Nazi party first gained popularity with pissed off war veterans it’s only natural that they would hate these “November criminals”