john lennon

[pce]

Imagine

Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...

Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...

Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
imane all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one.

[CPK]

man...i loved that song when my teacher sang it to us.
it was in music class.
good song. :)

[Nickademus]

these lyrics should come as no surprise to anyone.
john lennon was a revolutionary, only he performed his revolution thru music (much like DaNatural wants to do :))

[Guest]

He might have been a revolutionary, but he sucked as a father, so says Julian Lennon.

[RedCeltic]

I remember the Day John Lennon was shot and my mother was crying so much... everyone's parents where upset you'd think it was the president or something. As I recall it seemed some people expressed more greaf for his death than this recent WTC attack. And me... I didn't even know who he was then as I was just a kid. He was a source of insperation for many people back then, and an important figure in the hippie movement.

And yes... John and Yoko where poor parents. I read Julian's story also and it makes you sick.

[Guest]

He was a great father to Sean, the kid he had with Yoko. He just was a bad father to Julian, the kid he had with his first wife Cynthia. Absentee, no child-support, etc.
It kind of tarnishes his sterling image. Imagine that?

[RedCeltic]

Your right... I mixed them up...

Still, he was a great song writer

(Edited by RedCeltic at 3:39 pm on Sep. 24, 2001)

[Guest]

yes, that he was. and a big supporter of the Irish Republican Army.

[Chancho]

Here's a very important piece of information from Michael Moore:

"...I recall the email I received the night before from a radio station manager in Michigan. He passed on to me a confidential memo from the radio conglomerate that owns his station: Clear Channel, the company that has
bought up 1,200 stations altogether -- 247 of them in the nation's 250 largest radio markets -- and that not only dominates the Top 40 format, but controls 60% of all rock-radio listening.

The company has ordered its stations not to play a list of 150 songs during this "national emergency." The list, incredibly, includes "Bridge Over Troubled ater," "Peace Train," and John Lennon's "Imagine." Rah-rah war songs, though, are OK.

And then there was this troubling instruction: "No songs by Rage Against the Machine should be aired." The entire works of a band are banned? Is this the freedom we fight for? Or does this sound like one of those
repressive dictatorships we are told is our new enemy?..."
- extracted from 'Tears Down the West Side Highway'
9/22/01

How Orwellian...

[Markxs]

lennnon recorded a song wich is called revolution ( while he was with the beatles the lyrics are anti-rev.)

another thing how can somebody live in such a big house and be a rev at the same time, ok i dont mean kids who live with wealthy parents but Lennon had a choice. i like imagine very much do :)

[Guest]

Markxs, we always think the same way about that, comrade and friend. The house/money always negates being revolutionary and vis versa.

[Nickademus]

Quote: from Markxs on 3:48 pm on Sep. 27, 2001
another thing how can somebody live in such a big house and be a rev at the same time, ok i dont mean kids who live with wealthy parents but Lennon had a choice. i like imagine very much do :)




okay i kinda take that comment to heart because i consider myself a revolutionary in a sense and yet i am spending tens of thousands of dollars on my education, to study law as well. does this mean i can't be a revolutionary? (this discussion happened somewhere else but i can't remember the thread to point you to it.

[pce]

yes, i will have to disagree with the previous comment as well. do you mean to say, everyone has to live poorly if they want to be a revolutionary?

and who has had more impact on the most people, john lennon, or some band playing out of their garage because they are a "revolutionary"?

[Nickademus]

thank you pce . . .at this stage in the revolution the impoortant thing message out. the best way to do that is thru mass bands such as ratm and through the mediums of the system

[Markxs]

i dont think rich born left a(like che ) should be living poor but ppl get owned by there ownings and the system takes control over me and you with money and wealth. so i would advise to not be part of the work buy work more buy more work more buy more DIE more

live by the rules die by the rules !!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest]

Hmmm. I am weary of celebraties of all sorts.

It would very socialist IF they, ratm, made a master cd and then encourage bootleg copies to get the political message out, and while keeping thir pre-celeb day jobs too. Signing a multi-million contract? Yeah, I would listen to the garage band any day who does it as a labour of love.

Also, The grand socalist tenant that everyone seems to be missing here is: take only what you need and give the rest away. Less is more Less is more Less is more.....

Communism could never afford a society that is rich. Economically it is impossble. The burden will be on the state and the people are williingly or not going to have to sacrifice to fit everyone into the scheme of things. Why? because it is the same amounts of wealth, assets, money, only spread farther and wider. That's just the way it is.

[RedCeltic]

This is a bit off the direction of where your going but I was reminded today of something John said while standing with the WTC behind him...

"What's the point of bombing wall street, if you want to change the system, change the system. Don't kill people." Interesting...