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Herman
1st March 2009, 21:09
Chavez Orders Takeover of Venezuelan Rice Mills (Update2)
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By Daniel Cancel
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March 1 (Bloomberg) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Hugo%0AChavez&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1) sought to tighten his grip on South America’s third- largest economy as he ordered National Guard troops to seize rice-processing mills for allegedly failing to observe government price controls.
“Some companies are refusing to follow the government’s rules,” Chavez said yesterday on state television. “I’ve ordered the intervention in those industries to protect the people, not the bourgeoisie.”
Chavez warned companies attempting to stop production that they risk having their mills nationalized without compensation. Government-owned farms have increased rice production and bought new machinery, and there is no excuse for shortages of white rice, he said.
Chavez, 54, has asserted growing control over prices and production in his self-declared drive to impose socialism on the nation of 28 million. Since winning re- election to a second term in 2006, he has forced foreign oil companies into joint ventures and nationalized utilities, the cement industry, a steel mill and a bank.
“This is a process of the state absorbing different distribution and production chains that they consider strategic,” said Carlos Machado Allison, an economist at the Instituto de Estudios Superiores de Administracion, a business school in Caracas. “This will only exacerbate food inflation and drive the little private investment that’s left away.”
Price Controls
Chavez, a former Army officer, has imposed price controls for staples such as rice, pasta, cooking oil and milk in a bid to control inflation (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=VNVPIYOY%3AIND) fueled by government spending on social programs for the poor. Venezuela’s inflation rate last year was 32 percent, the highest among 78 economies tracked by Bloomberg. Food prices jumped 47 percent.
The government raided a plant owned by the country’s largest rice-processing company, Empresas Polar SA, two days ago and seized 16,000 tons of raw rice, El Nacional reported. A spokesman for Polar called the seizure “illegal and arbitrary,” the newspaper said.
The Agriculture Ministry said it would temporarily occupy rice mills to assure that the companies package the highest amount of rice for sale under price controls, El Nacional said yesterday.
Phone calls by Bloomberg News to Polar’s corporate offices weren’t answered yesterday.
Mill Takeover
Richard Canan, deputy minister at the agriculture ministry, told state television today that Polar’s rice mill has been taken over by authorities who will oversee production to assure the mill operates at full capacity and packages rice subject to state price controls.
The plant was producing 3,000 tons a month, below its full capacity of 7,000 tons a month, Canan said. The government will seek to establish norms to determine what percentage of processed rice products can be sold as flavored rice, which isn’t subject to price controls.
Agriculture Minister Elias Jaua (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Elias+Jaua&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1) said today on state television that Polar was processing 90 percent of its rice outside of price controls and charged double for the product after adding a powder with artificial coloring and flavoring.
The Venezuelan Rice Mill Association, known as Asovema, lists 11 companies as members on its Web site, including Minnesota-based Cargill Inc.
Lisa Clemens (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Lisa+Clemens&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1), a Cargill spokeswoman in Minnetonka, Minnesota, didn’t immediately return telephone and e-mail messages seeking comment. A security guard at Cargill’s office in Caracas said there was no one available to comment.
Unaware of Order
Rafael Torres, a supervisor at the Iancarina CA processing plant in Venezuela’s Portuguesa state, said he was unaware of Chavez’s order and that the plant was operating normally.
Asovema issued a statement expressing surprise at the measure because the industry is producing at full capacity and the government has yet to establish quotas for different types of rice, according to El Universal. The government’s action won’t increase the supply of rice in supermarkets, the statement said.
Chavez issued 26 decrees last July increasing his control over food storage and distribution and allowing the state to jail company owners for hoarding. The president, who has been in office since 1999, won a referendum Feb. 15 to abolish term limits and will run for a third, six-year term in the 2012 general elections.
Companies Object
Private business groups like Cavidea, which represents about 85 private food companies, say price controls force companies to operate at a loss.
Chavez said rice processors have been buying the raw material from local farmers but refuse to sell white rice at the controlled price. Instead, they add colors and artificial flavors to evade the controls, which apply to white rice.
“They’ve refused 100 times to process the typical rice that Venezuelans eat,” Chavez said today during his “Alo Presidente” program on state television. “I’m tired of it and if they don’t take me seriously I’ll expropriate the plants and turn them into social property from private property.”
The government will take control of a second mill, known as Arroz Mary, tomorrow, Chavez said.
Venezuela, the biggest oil exporter in the Western Hemisphere, has seen export revenue plunge along with oil prices, which are down 56 percent in the past year.
Chavez has yet to pay companies including Exxon Mobil Corp., Cemex SAB, Ternium SA, and Banco Santander SA for their assets, which Caracas-based consulting firm Ecoanalitica estimates at about $11 billion.


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Die Neue Zeit
1st March 2009, 21:53
Let me know when Mister Hugo Chavez Frias nationalizes the banks. :(

bailey_187
1st March 2009, 22:00
Let me know when Mister Hugo Chavez Frias nationalizes the banks. :(

He is trying to buy Grupo Santandars bank in Venezuela but he now wants it for cheaper (probably due to oil price drops), and grupo santandar are not happy about it

RedScare
1st March 2009, 22:05
Interesting. I hope he can keep productivity up.

Davie zepeda
1st March 2009, 22:56
Like che said before now begins the revolution!

ZeroNowhere
2nd March 2009, 08:06
Like che said before now begins the revolution!
Wait, what? The revolution begins with the state nationalizing the rice industry...?

Coggeh
2nd March 2009, 16:23
Wait, what? The revolution begins with the state nationalizing the rice industry...?
Venezuela had a rice industry ?:mellow:

And to an above post , buying a bank from its owners at an agreed price is not really a plausible method for socialists .Any socialist would really be able to analyse that the profits of that bank don't belong to them (the owners) it must be taken off them and nationalised under democratic workers control .

Charles Xavier
2nd March 2009, 16:31
Venezuela had a rice industry ?:mellow:

And to an above post , buying a bank from its owners at an agreed price is not really a plausible method for socialists .Any socialist would really be able to analyse that the profits of that bank don't belong to them (the owners) it must be taken off them and nationalised under democratic workers control .


But socialism isn't cut and dried, Chavez might surprise us yet.

Coggeh
2nd March 2009, 16:56
But socialism isn't cut and dried, Chavez might surprise us yet.
I wouldn't hold my breath to be honest ...

BIG BROTHER
2nd March 2009, 17:15
Well I don't consider myself an expert in economy, but from what I understand even if this wasn't the best approach, I'm glad that the problem with food prices is finally being handled. Like the article mentions I've read that food companies in Venezuela produce less in order to make food prices go up.

Dimentio
2nd March 2009, 18:49
I don't really like nationalisations as the best approach. Would prefer if he created the legal means for worker organisations to be formed to take care of the factories.

bailey_187
2nd March 2009, 18:53
I don't really like nationalisations as the best approach. Would prefer if he created the legal means for worker organisations to be formed to take care of the factories.

He is doing that for other things

The point of this nationalization is to ensure there is cheap food though

maybe he will introduce some workplace democracy?

Dimentio
3rd March 2009, 11:35
He is doing that for other things

The point of this nationalization is to ensure there is cheap food though

maybe he will introduce some workplace democracy?

I think the best way to ensure cheap food under a market economy is through cooperatives of farmers, workers and consumers.

Also, socialism could not be established from above, but must grow from below. I know about that there's a lot of such tendencies in Venezuela and I applaud them, but I think that cement and rice would not fare well operated by a government bureaucracy.

Panda Tse Tung
3rd March 2009, 13:43
Venezuela had a rice industry ?:mellow:

And to an above post , buying a bank from its owners at an agreed price is not really a plausible method for socialists .Any socialist would really be able to analyse that the profits of that bank don't belong to them (the owners) it must be taken off them and nationalised under democratic workers control .
Thats a simple thing to say, but the fact of the matter is that Venezuela is still a bourgeois state, and if they would do such a thing they would lose a lot of capitalists and thus a lot of capital which they need quite badly. so the most reasonable thing they can do is nationalize it with compensation.

Charles Xavier
3rd March 2009, 15:57
I think the best way to ensure cheap food under a market economy is through cooperatives of farmers, workers and consumers.

Also, socialism could not be established from above, but must grow from below. I know about that there's a lot of such tendencies in Venezuela and I applaud them, but I think that cement and rice would not fare well operated by a government bureaucracy.


There are many countries with nationalized Cement industries they work fine. Why would Venezuela's not work as well?

But his nationalizations are different as it aims to lower prices in order to develop society socially.

Explain to me economically how the nationalizations will not fare well operated by a government bureaucracy, they weren't faring well under a corporate bureaucracy. Their only interests were profits.

Bilbo Baggins
3rd March 2009, 16:43
Well I don't consider myself an expert in economy, but from what I understand even if this wasn't the best approach, I'm glad that the problem with food prices is finally being handled. Like the article mentions I've read that food companies in Venezuela produce less in order to make food prices go up.

From a better source than Bloomberg -

:( (Venezuelanalysis.com)

"Inspections by the National Institute in Defense of People's Access to Goods and Services(INDEPABIS) last week revealed that the plant was operating at half its capacity and adding artificial flavouring to 90% of its rice in order to evade government price controls, which apply only to essential, unenhanced food items."

Dimentio
3rd March 2009, 17:08
There are many countries with nationalized Cement industries they work fine. Why would Venezuela's not work as well?

But his nationalizations are different as it aims to lower prices in order to develop society socially.

Explain to me economically how the nationalizations will not fare well operated by a government bureaucracy, they weren't faring well under a corporate bureaucracy. Their only interests were profits.

That's because they will not be very much cheaper. Rather, the costs will be hidden by the tax bills which largely are derived from worker pockets. The wealthy will always find way to not pay taxes.

If Venezuela was to adopt a Cuban-style system, it will probably improve accessibility, but at the price of quality and efficiency.

As a technocrat, I think the best way would be to leave the administration to those who themselves are working there, and connect them with the consumers so that people better could adress their needs.

Charles Xavier
3rd March 2009, 19:12
That's because they will not be very much cheaper. Rather, the costs will be hidden by the tax bills which largely are derived from worker pockets. The wealthy will always find way to not pay taxes.

If Venezuela was to adopt a Cuban-style system, it will probably improve accessibility, but at the price of quality and efficiency.

As a technocrat, I think the best way would be to leave the administration to those who themselves are working there, and connect them with the consumers so that people better could adress their needs.

Whats your evidence?

This isn't Cuba, this is Venezuela.

cyu
3rd March 2009, 20:34
the plant was operating at half its capacity and adding artificial flavouring to 90% of its rice in order to evade government price controls

Which just goes to show you can't really mix capitalism and socialism and expect it to work. The plant is still operating as a capitalist enterprise - their legally enforced goal is still to maximize shareholder value - so what else would they do other than think up ways to get more money into the pockets of their bosses?

In an economy where some people are still allowed to have much more money than everyone else, of course people are going to be scrambling for money - because if they get caught on the bottom, then they are toast.

KurtFF8
3rd March 2009, 21:03
The real question here of course is: does being under Venezuelan state control equate to worker control? I'm really not sure either way, but I have seen Chavez come out many times to support worker self management. I would love to see him lay out a plan of how being under Venezuelan state control will truly put the this industry into the hands of the workers.

Charles Xavier
4th March 2009, 01:08
Staple food has price controls thats definitely socialists