American National Party.

[SocialRealist]

Recently I found this site linking to a political party called the American National Party which is an American version of the British Nationalist Party.

Here is the link. http://www.americannationalparty.com (http://www.anonym.to/?http://www.americannationalparty.com/%5D)


I just thought I would make you aware of this.

[LOLseph Stalin]

Hehe. It could have been deleted. It didn't show up. Oh well. Not like they would stand a chance anyway. America is dominated by Elephants and Jackasses, remember? ;)

[SocialRealist]

Hehe. It could have been deleted. It didn't show up. Oh well. Not like they would stand a chance anyway. America is dominated by Elephants and Jackasses, remember? ;)
The website is certainly there. I just opened it a moment ago to check if it was working. It doesnt seem to work when you open it directly off Revleft for some reason.

The thing to worry about is if they are are willing to go the next mile and support a party such as this which is hard leaning right beyond what the Democrats and Republicans are.

[Dimentio]

Now it should work.

Btw, anti-imperialists should probably cheer isolationist tendencies in America and Europa. That means probably fewer wars abroad.

[Dr Mindbender]

Now it should work.

Btw, anti-imperialists should probably cheer isolationist tendencies in America and Europa. That means probably fewer wars abroad.

Not when their victories mean victories for the fascists we shouldnt.

The BNP and other fascists are for the most part 'isolationist', that does'nt mean we should applaud their gains.

Besides which, isolationism isnt necessarilly a good thing. To me, there are 2 sorts of interventionalism, positive and negative. Positiive, applicable to providing aid, food etc and negative meaning engaging in imperialist wars specifically for beourgioise gains.

[Dimentio]

Not when their victories mean victories for the fascists we shouldnt.

The BNP and other fascists are for the most part 'isolationist', that does'nt mean we should applaud their gains.

Besides which, isolationism isnt necessarilly a good thing. To me, there are 2 sorts of interventionalism, positive and negative. Positiive, applicable to providing aid, food etc and negative meaning engaging in imperialist wars specifically for beourgioise gains.

You have a point there.

I was rather saying what I said to subtly criticise one-dimensional anti-imperialism.

[MarxSchmarx]

The website is certainly there. I just opened it a moment ago to check if it was working. It doesnt seem to work when you open it directly off Revleft for some reason.
THe reason is there is a right bracket in the link you provided:
http://www.americannationalparty.com/

For the record these idiots are hamsters on a tredmill. They are going nowhere and will prolly die with whatever dimwit is maintaining that shit webpage.

[Melbourne Lefty]

For the record these idiots are hamsters on a tredmill. They are going nowhere and will prolly die with whatever dimwit is maintaining that shit webpage.


Wish I could design a page that good....

But yeah, from what you can see on netspace the american fash scene is dominated by throwbacks and crazies. Subtle neo-fash/right-populism BNP style [which is where they got the website from] is probably beyond most american fash.

Be grateful!:laugh:

[StalinFanboy]

I've known about them for a while. It's one of those things where people will take a lot of interest in, or they'll be laughed at.

[Orange Juche]

Theres no such thing as "European Heritage", Europe is full of distinct cultures, distinct enough that you could hardly say there is one unifying heritage.

[commyrebel]

the vidoe on that site is anti communist and not correct at all for it said thing about marx that were not true and did not apply to it

[MarxSchmarx]

Theres no such thing as "European Heritage", Europe is full of distinct cultures, distinct enough that you could hardly say there is one unifying heritage.
Moreover, "Europe" as a continent is a cultural construct. South America, Africa, these are actually distinct geological entities but Europe is just a huge peninsula of Eurasia. Also your critique is true of every continent except Antarctica.


But yeah, from what you can see on netspace the american fash scene is dominated by throwbacks and crazies. Subtle neo-fash/right-populism BNP style [which is where they got the website from] is probably beyond most american fash.

Be grateful!http://www.revleft.com/vb/../revleft/smilies2/lol.gifOtherway around, comrade.

America does and doesn't have a neo-fascist movement comparable to the BNP. The "center" of the American GOP comes close - indeed, a conservative Tory in the UK will probably be a moderate to liberal Democrat in America like Barack Obama. Arguably, they manage to co-opt the more openly Fascist groups like these national party fools.

In terms of the damage it causes, the center and right wing of the AMerican GOP are far more destructive than the UK BNP can ever hope to be.

In fact, the only thing that they MIGHT disagree with the BNP is on "race". Any chance they get to rail about racial minorities, like on immigration or affirmative action, they embrace like flies on shit. Even then, most American Republicans are not open racists only because it is such a strong social taboo. The elites are probably not personally all that bigoted, but have no cumpunction about exploiting the racial fears of the rank and file. On every other issue they meet eye for eye with the BNP, making a crypto-fascist party redundant.

[Melbourne Lefty]

America does and doesn't have a neo-fascist movement comparable to the BNP. The "center" of the American GOP comes close - indeed, a conservative Tory in the UK will probably be a moderate to liberal Democrat in America like Barack Obama. Arguably, they manage to co-opt the more openly Fascist groups like these national party fools.


Umm..

Nope.

I dont think you realise the difference in view between a centre republican and a BNP thug [or more and more these days, thugette].

The republican party did not have a single candidate in the primarys who thought that stopping ALL immigration, legal and otherwise was a good idea because it would help to make america "Whiter".



n terms of the damage it causes, the center and right wing of the AMerican GOP are far more destructive than the UK BNP can ever hope to be.


That of course I do agree with, the GOP is far more damaging than any fringe party anywhere could be.

But because they view the world through the prism of economics and not race they are not an ideologically race based group.

[MarxSchmarx]

The republican party did not have a single candidate in the primarys who thought that stopping ALL immigration, legal and otherwise was a good idea because it would help to make america "Whiter".


I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them felt this way, but they don't say so publicly b/c, again, racism is such a social taboo in America.

In any event I don't think this is the "center" of the American GOP. Leaders are one thing, but I was talking about the rank and file Republicans. Indeed, I implied as much when I wrote:



The elites are probably not personally all that bigoted, but have no cumpunction about exploiting the racial fears of the rank and file.




But because they view the world through the prism of economics and not race they are not an ideologically race based group.

I agree that history of race relations in America is just not comparable to the history of race relations in the UK, and in both countries the current state of affairs is not the same. But if you understand the history of racism in America, it is not neatly separated from economics. THe Brits have not had something like the Klan or virulent, widespread and tolerated lynching, a massive slave population, nor legalized apartheid in half the country for hundreds of years. Economic racism has just replaced this more overt form.

[Melbourne Lefty]

I agree that history of race relations in America is just not comparable to the history of race relations in the UK, and in both countries the current state of affairs is not the same.


yup well can easily agree on that.

By the way I would like to hear from some Americans on this board, what are the most active racist groups in the US these days? Do any of them have a membership of over 20?:laugh:

[Verix]

KKK member ship dropped to 2000....then the "illegal immagrant" scare hit and now its up to 6000 members last time i checked....

[JimmyJazz]

anti-imperialists should probably cheer isolationist tendencies in America

Meh. These voices have always existed, going all the way back to the founding of the U.S., and they've absolutely never prevented anything, ever, that I am aware of. More of a voice of permanent protest. It's very depressing. :(

[Big Red]

yup well can easily agree on that.

By the way I would like to hear from some Americans on this board, what are the most active racist groups in the US these days? Do any of them have a membership of over 20?:laugh:

most openly racist groups are pretty splintered it would appear, of course the KKK is still alive and kicking (barely) and aside from that there's dozens of splintered Nazi groups still trying to recover (from the 80's I believe) but that does not mean their not dangerous. Every once and a while some investigative reporter will stumble onto a Nazi compound here and there where people are literally training for race war, usually in bumfuck Alabama or something otherwise though they seem pretty harmless as a political force seeing as they always seem to get maybe 15 people to actually go to a rally.

[Sasha]

yeah, i think the biggest danger from fascists in the US is streetviolence and espacely oklahoma styled terrorism