Felipe Coronorel, a.k.a. Immortal Technique

[dmcauliffe09]

Immortal Technique is one of the sickest "political" rappers out there. I always knew this when listening to him, but recently I was listening to "Golpe de Estado" from "The 3rd World" and I realized how deep his lyrics really are. I mean, I'm a hip-hop head, and I'm a leftist, so who better than Tech to represent both of my most passionate characteristics? What other political rappers do people here like?

[Sasha]

keny arkana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHn5M2At2R8

[Yazman]

Since you're looking for recommendations of other political rappers (btw Tech is fucking AWESOME!), here's two others I really like:

The East Coast Avengers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_qND7__b70&feature=related

Greydon Square:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIZuJlMfwqg

[Qayin]

Im obnoxious mother fucker can you tell?
Run through little Havana yelling "Viva Fidel!""

[Qayin]

Oh check out

The Coup
The Lost children of babylon

[Pirate Utopian]

IT sucks!
The lyrics are pretty bad when you look at it and the beats are always some piano and drums in loop for 5 minutes straight.

Yawn.

Now, The Coup that's a good group.

[Yazman]

IT sucks!
The lyrics are pretty bad when you look at it and the beats are always some piano and drums in loop for 5 minutes straight.

Yawn.

Now, The Coup that's a good group.

I'm going to ignore that bit about IT simply because I couldn't be fucked arguing about it and music really is subjective so there's no need. Suffice it to say that I disagree with you massively; I think his lyrics are awesome and the music goes well.

About The Coup: as somebody who isn't african-american its really hard for me to like them. I want to like them, I really honestly do, but its very hard when they are adherents of black supremacist movements, and they rap about it in some of their songs. I don't get the "fuck yeah, revolution!" sort of hype I get when I listen to other political rappers when I listen to some of The Coup's songs. Not all of their songs are like this but some of them are.

Also I would like to point out an Australian rap group that is political, called The Herd. I'll post up one of their songs here, it's called 77% - it's really good! In this video the song itself doesn't start until about the 1 minute mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQnGqdFO9EY

[Communist Theory]

Yeah, Technique is a great rapper. Have you ever listened to his song "Bin Laden"?

[Dóchas]

Yeah, Technique is a great rapper. Have you ever listened to his song "Bin Laden"?

i love that song and i generally dont listen to rap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA_xXWSXyFI

[ibn Bruce]

I find it hard to reconcile my love of Hip Hop with the misogyny and homophobia so often evident in so many of the better artists. I guess Tech shows this the most. However 3rd World (his latest) is a lot better :D Though not completely free of bad stuff. Still can't figure out if he is Muslim or not:

'and get the fuck out,
if you want the foreigners gone,
I'll paint the white house black and park a car on the lawn,
marry a Muslim girl and fuck her five times a day..
(in the backround) WHAT!?
every time right before we shower and pray,
you damn right the A-K symbolise that you hard,
but a Holy War, is a conversation with God....'


'The voice of racism preaching the Gospel is devilish,
a fake church called the Prophet Mohammed (sws) a terrorist,
forgetting God is not religion, but a spiritual bond,
and Jesus (as) is the most quoted Prophet in the Qu'ran'


Guess I'll ask him when he comes to Aus hopefully :D

Lupe Fiasco is awesome btw, though his politics are fairly subtle, he is a hellova lot less sexist and homophobic:

'I used to hate hip hop,
yep, because the women degraded,
but Too $hort made me laugh,
like a hypocrite: i played it,
I hypocrite I stated, though I only recited half;
ommiting the word '*****', me and dog couldn't relate,
til a '*****' i dated, forgive my favourite word for her,
and her's alike, I learnt it from a song i heard and sorta liked...'

[S.O.I]

It's easy to sit back and criticize a socialist state when you have made no contribution yourself. It is hard to fully critique Kim Jong-il if you are standing from the outside observing. You need to participate and contribute to DPRK culture if you hope to truly understand it. Do you know what the four elements of The Juche Idea are?

I like Kim Jong-il. I'm sure his obscenely luxurious lifestyle, paid for by North Korean workers, is offensive but what gives anyone the right to be offended?

ps I've seen Pol Pot live and I thought he was rather average.

lol

leave britney alone!

[S.O.I]

btw immortal technique is cool, but he brainwashed my little sister.

wu-tang on the other hand, is for the children.

[political_animal]

Its not that I don't have a problem with it, its just that I don't see it the way you see it because its not serious. The guy doesn't mean any of that shit. When he talks about raping your mother and crashing a plane into your house he isn't advocating rape and plane hijacking..


Whereas when he raps about revolution and leftist concerns, then of course he MEANS it?

[Fawkes]

What was the point of the second post? Can we stick to the topic at hand?

The point was to show why you're a hypocritical dumbass. Homophobia and sexism aside, IT blows. His beats are all the same as Pirate said and his flow is so fucking boring, he never changes anything up at all. He also tries to prove how tough he is constantly by making all of these bullshit threats to some invisible person, and if you say that's what hip-hop has always been about, you're a fucking idiot.

[Qayin]

Bin laden didnt blow up the projects

[Djehuti]

Immortal Technique on romanticizing revolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8150Xep93_M

On the best revolutionary reads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImR5WeDf1y8

[Yazman]

KRS-One is amazing and he always keeps it real, I wanted to bring him up because he's a pretty big mouthpiece for political hip hop in general and he's extremely respected in the hip hop community, and he constantly speaks out against name-calling. There's a few interviews where he even talks about how nobody should be calling each other names, especially african-americans to other african-americans because it doesn't help at all, and I agree with him on that.

I love his song The Truth:

Listen to the lyric as the negative is shrinkin
It's shrinkin out your life when you decide to change your thinkin
One of the first things we gotta switch around of course
Is Jesus Christ, and him dying on the cross
You're looking at the cross, surrounded in it's mystery
With Jesus on the cross in a, total misery
Now seperate Jesus from the cross so you can see
The truth about the cross, and the cross's history
The cross was created by the Roman government
It's only purpose and use, is cap-i-tal punishment
But Jesus Christ, was all about the revolution
While the cross was used as Jesus Christ's execution
See what if Jesus Christ, was hung upon a tree
Upon every church wall, that's exactly what you'd see
If Jesus Christ, was shot in the head with no respect
We'd all have little gold guns around our neck
If Jesus Christ was killed in electic chair, now get it
You'd be knealing to the electric chair with Jesus, still in it
You gaze upon the cross, and you see the execution
You yell stop the violence but the cross you're still using

[Invader Zim]

I don't like him or his homophobia. I also don't buy the excuse that it is the culture of hip hop. Other progressive rappers don't suffer the same problem, to quote Sage Francis: -

"i used to be afraid of firin'
it sounded startling
but now i'm starting to hate the quiet moments
might remind you of a mike
by the way i hold it (to the grill)
a homophobic rapper
unaware of the graphic nature of phallic symbols
tragically ironic, suckin' off each others' gats & pistols"

[StalinFanboy]

IT is pretty badass. Don't always agree with his lyrics, but he's incredibly smart. Also dislike that he's Muslim.


Check out QELD. They're a sweet hip hop group from Bristol that have anarchist lyrics.
Also Dead Prez and the Coup. Eminem also has some pretty socially conscious lyrics.

[Yazman]

IT is pretty badass. Don't always agree with his lyrics, but he's incredibly smart. Also dislike that he's Muslim.


Check out QELD. They're a sweet hip hop group from Bristol that have anarchist lyrics.
Also Dead Prez and the Coup. Eminem also has some pretty socially conscious lyrics.

Where did you hear that IT is Islamic? He's never admitted being a part of any religion. I've even got an interview where he says he doesn't like organised religion.

Do any of you guys know about the orphanage/medical centre/school that IT is funding/opening in Afghanistan?

[Riot11]

IT is fuckin' amazing. Also i like the Flobots, and Dead Prez'

[Kowalski]

I often listen him and I like his songs but as I understand, ideologically he has strange views seems like "Conspiracy theory" - maybe it's my mistake? I really don't like the conspiracy theories)))) I'm very tired of them because faced their followers enough often in Russia and they are so unscientific, antimarxist and even antisemitic :confused:

[Bandito]

He is pretty inspiring, especially for young people. Some of his songs are bang on - like the "3rd World" from the same titled album, that is a masterpiece.

But his politics can get pretty weird at times.

1)He IS homophobic. Maybe not in a right-wing kind of way, but he'd definitely be restricted at RevLeft. ;)
2)He has some really childish and weird views on the Illuminati, Solomon's Temple and conspiracy theories.
3)He IS sexist. Every other song screams about "*****es". Not cool.

[No pasarán]

He has his moments. I can't get into regular hip hop but I like a fair bit of political stuff. But I mostly listen to it when training or down the gym. Or watchin tributes to muay thai ledgends on you tube when the music the person chose for their compilation is shite...

[¿Que?]

I personally like the rambling speech Immortal Technique does at the beginning of Golpe de Estado. Although, there are two versions of that song, and I believe he only does it on one of them.

I also like Black Market Militia. I always mention them in these kinds of discussions. They're highly religious but also very political. They do a song with Dead Prez that is the fucking shit. Also, I think one of the guys used to be in Wu Tang or something.

Fuck it, I'll post it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8pCSiZpRCU

[Chimurenga.]

Awful.

The Coup, Dead Prez, and Sun Rise Above are way better. Listen to them.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Also, I think one of the guys used to be in Wu Tang or something.Killah Priest is a Wu affiliate.

He is an amazing lyricist.

He's also vehemently opposed to abortion as the lyrics of his breakout song show:

I studied till my eyes was swollen
And only arose when I found out that we were the chosen
I deal with the truth and build with the youth
And teach my son as he kneels on the stoop
"Son, life is a pool of sin, corrupted with foolish men
And women with wicked minds who wield picket signs
To legalize abortion," the evil eye extortion
I quiz some with my wisdom

Timbo King and Hell Razah are also Wu affiliates. Timbo King was in Royal Fam and Hell Razah was in the Sunz of Man with Killah Priest, Prodigal Sunn and 60 Second Assassin.

[Raúl Duke]

I think there was one political rapper (Sun Rise Above) who was/is a member of revleft...
but I'm not going to say which member.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Yeah but he's terrible.

[NGNM85]

Revolutionary vol.2 is a great album.

[Buffalo Souljah]

Saul Williams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzY2-GRDiPM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDMtaIcrfQ0

Sage Francis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ7w-z4BvMo

[synthesis]

KRS-One is amazing and he always keeps it real

KRS has been all over the Alex Jones show, so fuck'im.

[Chimurenga.]

KRS has been all over the Alex Jones show, so fuck'im.

Yeah, KRS-One is legit out of his mind, haha. I like his early stuff though. Return of the Boom Bap is a great record.

[Across The Street]

I thought KRS-One was shot after he made the album Eardrum with Talib Kweli.