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Die Neue Zeit
21st February 2009, 06:07
A very interesting read I came across by Lars Lih, which elaborates further on some of his comments last December in the Weekly Worker (http://www.cpgb.org.uk/worker/750/rediscovering.html):

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_6976/is_4_7/ai_n28430632


I explore what we as historians of Russia can learn from the case of the French Marxists. To keep things interesting, I advance two seeming paradoxes. First, the undemocratic part of Lenin's legacy comes in large part from European Social Democracy, while the Russian context contributed to the democratic part. Second, the utopian dreams of a future society current during the pre-war Second International do not tell us very much about the so-called "utopian" episode of War Communism, but they do tell us much that we need to know about the New Economic Policy (NEP).

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In Guesde's words: "At all times there have been, if I may so express myself, two proletariats in the proletariat. One is the proletariat of ideas, aware, knowing what it wants and where it is going; the other is the proletariat of facts, undecided if not refractory, that has always had to be towed along. And it will continue to be thus up to the revolution."

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This complex of assumptions--the revolution will come only if the proletariat is convinced of its mission, "the socialist party must educate the proletariat, not the opposite," the workers' acceptance of their mission is nevertheless only an affaire du temps--gave rise to an innovative political strategy that can be labeled campaignism. Campaignism was a central feature of the German SPD and its attempts to create an "alternative culture" (the evocative title of vernon Lidtke's classic study on the subject). Like the SPD, the Parti Ouvrier carried on a permanent campaign, including the written word, the spoken word of rallies and study circles, and active protest demonstrations.

The reader will guess where I am heading. The Soviet system was what Peter Kenez termed a "propaganda state." Campaignism--now conducted by a monopolistic state--was its life-blood. This central institution of the Soviet system was lifted straight from the practices of the European Social Democratic parties and from the cluster of assumptions that surrounded these practices--all well in existence by the time the young Ul'ianov became a Social Democrat in the early 1890s.

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Discipline became a central value for all Social Democratic parties. Looking back, we make a contrast between the disciplined Bolsheviks and the easy-going Social Democrats, but what struck observers at the time was the doctrinal and factional intolerance of both the French and the German parties.

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For the Guesdists, every non-party manifestation of the worker movement or reform movement was acceptable only as a subordinate part of a party-dominated movement. This attitude was the institutional reflection of the insistence that only the revolutionary socialization of property could solve any deep-seated social ill. Thus no salvation outside the party: "No socialist movement is really serious if it is not directed by [the local branch of the Parti Ouvrier], which is the moral force of socialism."

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We also automatically assume that Russian particularity will help explain the undemocratic distortions of what has been borrowed from Europe. When I compared the picture of international Social Democracy that emerged from my research on the Iskra period with the French perspective of Angenot and Stuart, however, I found something quite different. The Russian context caused the local Social Democrats to lay heavy stress on an aspect of Social Democracy that had a much lower profile in the French context. I refer to "political freedom," a term that referred specifically to rights of speech, of assembly, of association, and the like.

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I can illustrate my point by comparing What Is to Be Done? to State and Revolution. These two Lenin productions are sometimes taken as emblematic of the bad, hard-line Lenin of 1902 versus the good, "libertarian" Lenin of 1917. From the point of view of political freedom, this standard contrast looks quite different. Precisely because of the Russian context, What Is to Be Done? stresses the centrality of political freedom. Precisely because State and Revolution marks a return to the European context, it downplays political freedom and breathes an atmosphere hostile to it.

When What Is to Be Done? was published in 1902, Lenin and his confreres insisted that overthrowing absolutism--also known as achieving political freedom--had to be the priority task of Russian Social Democracy. They hurled Kautsky's anathema against any Social Democrat who seemed to denigrate its centrality. Achieving political freedom was seen as a national task that would benefit Russia as a whole. If anything, the Bolsheviks were more single-minded in pursuit of political freedom than their party rivals. Lenin even went so far as to envisage Social Democratic minority participation (a taboo for most Social Democrats) in a revolutionary government dedicated to establishing political freedom.

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Despite the general impression that "scientific socialists" refused on principle to describe the concrete details of the future society, Angenot has discovered that during the period of the Second International, they did exactly that, continually and at great length. Party spokesmen felt the need to provide these detailed descriptions of socialist society in order to rebut continual attacks on socialism's lack of realism and to provide the militant with a concrete final goal. These descriptions are not packaged as novels in the manner of earlier utopias but rather are hedged about with appropriate qualifications (only a scientific hypothesis about probable future trends, etc.).

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So, in what ways did the doctrinal promise of the advantages of socialism influence Bolshevik policy? The usual scenario is that the Bolsheviks started off rather realistically, got progressively blinded by doctrine in the excitement of the civil war, and returned to disillusioned sobriety at the commencement of NEP. This scenario is the reverse of the truth.

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There is something of an irony here. Angenot justly criticizes prewar Social Democracy's tendency to assume away the revolutionary period and its consequences, thus eliding "the probable large-scale crises and a very probable and long-lasting disorganization." In their supposedly most utopian period, the Bolsheviks made good this gap and insisted precisely on the inevitability of crises and disorganization. Not only has this dose of realism, probably the Bolsheviks' most original contribution to Marxist theory, been totally overlooked, but they have been saddled with the nutty belief that the devastated Russia of 1920 embodied the socialist paradise.

Dave B
21st February 2009, 19:55
Hi Jacob

I haven’t got time to look into your article in depth as I am going out now, however it was interesting enough to respond in brief and off the cuff I though.

I think there is a danger here of conflating;

1) what a Marxist workers party should or can do in feudalism and

2) what it should do in advanced capitalism.

Unfortunately from late Marxism there is not a totally straightforward theoretical answer to the first question, as can be seen from the famous letter from Engels to Turati that formed part of the debate between the Mensheviks and Bolsheviks about participating in a capitalist government.

(The Bolsheviks were for it and the Mensheviks against, which most Leninist couldn’t guess at.)

http://www.marx.org/archive/marx/works/1894/letters/94_01_26.htm (http://www.marx.org/archive/marx/works/1894/letters/94_01_26.htm)


In the advice for Russia it was slightly different. Watch out for a load of Blanquist- Jacobin adventurers who think that by will power alone they can buck the course of history and end up repeating the same mistakes of the past and making arseholes out of themselves.
Letter to Vera Zasulich,.

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1885/letters/85_04_23.htm (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1885/letters/85_04_23.htm)

Or as Ted Grant put it ;




It resulted in the revolutionary dictatorship of the sans culottes which went beyond the bounds of bourgeois society. As Marx explained, this had the salutory effect of completing in a few months what would otherwise have taken the bourgeois decades to do. The leaders of the revolutionary wing of the petty bourgeoisie which wielded this dictatorship - Robespierre, Danton, etc, sincerely believed in the doctrines of the philosophers and attempted to put them into practice.

They could not do so because it was impossible to go beyond the economic base of the given society. They inevitably had to lose power and merely paved the way for bourgeois society. If Cliff’s argument is correct, one could only conclude that the same thing happened with the Russian as with the French Revolution.


http://www.tedgrant.org/archive/grant/1949/cliff.htm (http://www.tedgrant.org/archive/grant/1949/cliff.htm)


There was some excuse I think for ‘economism’ or the ‘economismist’ as part of the Marxist approach in feudalism. Just support the workers in trade union or economic struggles etc with may be a bit civil liberties stuff etc thrown in and in the process of that struggle class consciousness can look spontaneously after itself.

Or if not that, they will at least become more receptive to it later.

There is a bit of irony I suppose in that most Leninist organisations take exactly that approach now. The Weekly Worker is I think a bit of an exception in that in its paper it at least hints at what socialism is here and there.

It is also encourages open debate a bit in accepting quite hostile letters rather than ‘ignoring’ opposing opinions.

The SPGB and WSM are criticised for not being ‘economismist’ enough, and all talk and mention of ‘socialism’ as dangerous ‘utopianism’.

As are attempts to make objective criticisms of past mistakes eg the Russian revolution as ‘harming’ the movement.

What Engels thought the working class should do in an advanced capitalist country is given in;

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1850/class-struggles-france/intro.htm (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1850/class-struggles-france/intro.htm)

Which is an anathema to Trotskyism and explicitly rejects the notion of vanguardism as a former mistake and its cousin, becoming the ‘tag-tail’ of a bourgeois party, or a party of the super-clever intellectual literati or the ‘bourgeois intelligentsia’.

Die Neue Zeit
23rd February 2009, 04:48
Hi Dave,

Since you've brought up the term economism, here's a bit of history and some modern ramifications:

http://www.revleft.com/vb/broad-economism-t97399/index.html?t=97399

Ultimately the struggle for "socialism" is not as much a political one as it is an economic one. Because of this, talking about "free access communism only" like the rest of your WSM comrades is ultimately, I must say, economistic. While commendable for avoiding the class-collaborationist pitfalls of "right economism," it completely ignores immediate economic struggles, but it also ignores political struggles for participatory democracy, whatever the forms such anti-parliamentary struggles take (demarchy or radical republicanism).

Dave B
23rd February 2009, 18:58
Hi Jacob

Well even if I accepted the accusation that the SPGB and the World Socialist Movement are not concerned with every day working class struggles, which I don’t.

Perhaps I could argue that given the lack of focus on a ‘maximum programme’ by Leninist organisations in general or the left, that the SPGB in their over attentiveness on what socialism is, are merely bending the stick the other way, in order to straighten it out.

Personally I am prepared to let any organisation off the hook a bit that is at least is prepared to mention it every now and again.

I was surprised to see the word ‘demarchy’ mentioned, I think potentially it is a great idea.

I think the issue of ‘economism’ is complicated enough on its own without further splitting it up in an Aristotle and un-dialectical style into right and left.

I have not read your link on economism yet, I am sure I will have a look at it later.