Coreo creation [Archive]

20th February 2009, 16:09

Just loads of bloody flag things

there arent any flags, and i want to see you try doing it....there arent any "professionals" there to do it, just fans do it for their passion.Those things "surprise" the players and fans to go for the win, and beside there is always the fans fight for who is the best, who makes the best coreo etc, so this thing isnt just some bloody flag things...

Fuserg9:star:

Killfacer

20th February 2009, 16:09

there arent any flags, and i want to see you try doing it....there arent any "professionals" there to do it, just fans do it for their passion.Those things "surprise" the players and fans to go for the win, and beside there is always the fans fight for who is the best, who makes the best coreo etc, so this thing isnt just some bloody flag things...

Fuserg9:star:

surely the club just leave some on the seats?

20th February 2009, 16:15

surely the club just leave some on the seats?

lol no, thats not acceptable in the ultras world!if anyone can do it, we can do it and we can do it better because it isnt for the money but for what we "love"!

Fuserg9:star:

Killfacer

20th February 2009, 16:17

lol no, thats not acceptable in the ultras world!if anyone can do it, we can do it and we can do it better because it isnt for the money but for what we "love"!

Fuserg9:star:

You misunderstand. They get all the blocks of colours by leaving the peices of card on the seats. That's why they have it at international matches etc

20th February 2009, 16:20

You misunderstand. They get all the blocks of colours by leaving the peices of card on the seats. That's why they have it at international matches etc

still dont understand what you are saying:confused:

Killfacer

20th February 2009, 16:25

http://www.socialistunity.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/raise-the-flag.JPG

Not done by fans, left by the club...

20th February 2009, 16:28

wait, what match is this? is it from england national match?i can see plenty of england flags.:rolleyes:

Killfacer

20th February 2009, 16:33

wait, what match is this? is it from england national match?i can see plenty of england flags.:rolleyes:

THATS MY POINT!!?!??!?!

Those fans did not bring the flag things which make up the larger flag. They were left there by the FA so the fans could hold them up and everyone would go "ooooh thats nice".

20th February 2009, 16:37

THATS MY POINT!!?!??!?!

Those fans did not bring the flag things which make up the larger flag. They were left there by the FA so the fans could hold them up and everyone would go "ooooh thats nice".

what point???? england fields and national teams dont have ultra spirit fans, not even normal fans!Just supporters!On other teams where there are proper fans of course(:rolleyes:) those are prepared by the fans and the fans ONLY!
National teams dont count in here, i dont count those shit things as part even of the whole sport, not to add them to ULTRAS mentalita!!!

Fuserg9:star:

Killfacer

20th February 2009, 16:57

what point???? england fields and national teams dont have ultra spirit fans, not even normal fans!Just supporters!On other teams where there are proper fans of course(:rolleyes:) those are prepared by the fans and the fans ONLY!
National teams dont count in here, i dont count those shit things as part even of the whole sport, not to add them to ULTRAS mentalita!!!

Fuserg9:star:

Your telling me that thousands of fans brought the correct coloured thing to the stadium into the correct seat for that bayern one? Because thats clearly not the case.

20th February 2009, 17:06

Your telling me that thousands of fans brought the correct coloured thing to the stadium into the correct seat for that bayern one? Because thats clearly not the case.

NO!when i am referring to fans, i said before that i do not mean "normal" supporters of the team that come along to see their teams.I talk about ULTRAS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultras), and yes this small group of fans, take the whole stadium on their own, on thir own designs and they put those things there, they put the flags, they light the flares, they draw the banners etc!None else, having them prepared from someone outside of the group its a "violation of ULTRAS spirit and mentality" and that group in reality should close down!!!!We dont talk here about english "fans" mate, we talk about real stories where the team is far greater than any "god" or something simillar, the god is the team and the way expressing this is through this whole ULTRAS spirit!!
What you saw in this particular thread was prepared by some part of the fans, and only them, no "experts" no proffesionals etc, just fans!

Fuserg9:star:

Killfacer

20th February 2009, 17:10

NO!when i am referring to fans, i said before that i do not mean "normal" supporters of the team that come along to see their teams.I talk about ULTRAS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultras), and yes this small group of fans, take the whole stadium on their own, on thir own designs and they put those things there, they put the flags, they light the flares, they draw the banners etc!None else, having them prepared from someone outside of the group its a "violation of ULTRAS spirit and mentality" and that group in reality should close down!!!!We dont talk here about english "fans" mate, we talk about real stories where the team is far greater than any "god" or something simillar, the god is the team and the way expressing this is through this whole ULTRAS spirit!!
What you saw in this particular thread was prepared by some part of the fans, and only them, no "experts" no proffesionals etc, just fans!

Fuserg9:star:

Sorry but your deluded if you think that Bayern picture was done by the fans only. That omonia one is one stand so i could see that happening, but as if that Bayern one had nothing to do with the club. The idea that 65 thousand fans got together in did that is beyond beleif.

20th February 2009, 17:21

Sorry but your deluded if you think that Bayern picture was done by the fans only. That omonia one is one stand so i could see that happening, but as if that Bayern one had nothing to do with the club. The idea that 65 thousand fans got together in did that is beyond beleif.

sorry but you obviously dont know and much, i dont say it to become the "smartass" or something here, but i have some closer knowledge on such things!or example what you saw there with Bayern, what made it hard was the huge stadium and the lot seats they had to put the color things on!Besides that the only thing that needed some preparing with correct measurements etc was only the part with the letters and thats not even an outrageous enough!The other stadium is just shared in boxes where you give in all seats one particular color, not very dificult but very timeful due to the big stadium!We as OMONOIA did once with almost the wholse stadium, excluding only one stand with 20000 people, nothing fancy, but happened with help from none!You just underestimate what fans are cable to do!And as i said if anywhere were ULTRAS fans exist, a "professional" or someone else beside themselves took care of doing that display, the group should close down!!There are more things from just winning the game with the team, for us fans the winning of the fans game is almost as equal as the game one!And the entrance display plays a huge matter on that!

Fuserg9:star:

Wanted Man

20th February 2009, 17:38

Well, I can't judge this instance, I don't know how Bayern do it. But as far as I know, it is indeed normal that the supporters' groups make their own material for these actions, and nobody else. For example, the fanatic supporters can prepare it, and put up papers requesting the participation of everyone in the stadium.

Of course, there are also shit clubs whose "supporters" (more accurately: "viewers", like in a theatre or an ice-skating rink) allow the club and big business to dictate them. Like AZ, where all the fans clap with sponsored plastic "clappers" (see: http://www.footballclappers.com/movie.html). But these are shit clubs with plastic supporters, who should fuck off and watch ice skating or something, and then eat shit and die.

Killfacer

20th February 2009, 18:36

sorry but you obviously dont know and much, i dont say it to become the "smartass" or something here, but i have some closer knowledge on such things!or example what you saw there with Bayern, what made it hard was the huge stadium and the lot seats they had to put the color things on!Besides that the only thing that needed some preparing with correct measurements etc was only the part with the letters and thats not even an outrageous enough!The other stadium is just shared in boxes where you give in all seats one particular color, not very dificult but very timeful due to the big stadium!We as OMONOIA did once with almost the wholse stadium, excluding only one stand with 20000 people, nothing fancy, but happened with help from none!You just underestimate what fans are cable to do!And as i said if anywhere were ULTRAS fans exist, a "professional" or someone else beside themselves took care of doing that display, the group should close down!!There are more things from just winning the game with the team, for us fans the winning of the fans game is almost as equal as the game one!And the entrance display plays a huge matter on that!

Fuserg9:star:

What are you on about? Have you understood or read a thing i wrote? All you do to answer is bang on about ultras. I am simply saying that i reckon the Bayern one was partially done by the club.

20th February 2009, 18:45

What are you on about? Have you understood or read a thing i wrote? All you do to answer is bang on about ultras. I am simply saying that i reckon the Bayern one was partially done by the club.

i dont know by who this was made, if it was made by the club its a shame for their fans(and for me their group should close down), but thats wasnt what you was saying all this time.All this time you were saying that this is impossible to be done by the fans and only, and i must be deluded if i think fans can do such a thing.Yes i am deluded because i saw such things happened!:rolleyes:
I am not on anything, i just respond on your saying when you call delusive that those things can come only from fans.

Fuserg9:star:

Killfacer

20th February 2009, 18:54

i dont know by who this was made, if it was made by the club its a shame for their fans(and for me their group should close down), but thats wasnt what you was saying all this time.All this time you were saying that this is impossible to be done by the fans and only, and i must be deluded if i think fans can do such a thing.Yes i am deluded because i saw such things happened!:rolleyes:
I am not on anything, i just respond on your saying when you call delusive that those things can come only from fans.

Fuserg9:star:

Quote me where i said it couldnt be done. I even said that i thought the omonia one was done by the fans.

20th February 2009, 20:31

Killfacer

20th February 2009, 20:40

But the one we did can be characterized as "nothing" by other fans.Other fans make amazing things in huge numbers on their own.Down here we only lately started trying those things we are still on the beginning, other groups have made amazing things all over the world.

Fuserg9:star:

:confused: You just quoted me talking about the bayern one (the allianz arena has a capacity of 65,000)

20th February 2009, 20:44

:confused: You just quoted me talking about the bayern one (the allianz arena has a capacity of 65,000)

i underlined the part calling me deluded if i "believed" in such thing happened, and that 65000 fans got together to do that is beyond belief.

Fuserg9:star:

Killfacer

20th February 2009, 20:48

i underlined the part calling me deluded if i "believed" in such thing happened, and that 65000 fans got together to do that is beyond belief.

Fuserg9:star:

Where did sixty thousand fans do it?

20th February 2009, 20:55

Where did sixty thousand fans do it?

when you say do it, you mean all of them organize it? nowhere.. to put it in practice?It can easily happen.

Fuserg9:star:

Wanted Man

20th February 2009, 21:15

I think your disagreement is more of a language/cultural misunderstanding.

20th February 2009, 21:19

I think your disagreement is more of a language/cultural misunderstanding.

i think i hate you! :p really now, we really got off-topic here, and this whole conversation should be move elsewhere but i am not sure yet if thats a new thread in here, or in trashcan.When i decide i will do it, if not another mod gets me and does it instead!:D

Killfacer

20th February 2009, 21:29

i think i hate you! :p really now, we really got off-topic here, and this whole conversation should be move elsewhere but i am not sure yet if thats a new thread in here, or in trashcan.When i decide i will do it, if not another mod gets me and does it instead!:D

I think a lot was probably lost in translation :lol:

20th February 2009, 21:43

SPLIT HERE THE OTHER ONE SHOULD BE RETAINED FOR PHOTOS VIDEOS etc AND DISCUSSION ON THOSE(we got "out of hand" there :p)
killfacer your first post can be and part of the other thread, but i got this here too because without it it wouldnt make much sense, just repost it if you want and there;)

Fuserg9:star:

Wanted Man

20th February 2009, 22:15

i think i hate you! :p
Blah. :p So what's a Coreo? The little brother of Choreo? :tt2:

20th February 2009, 22:24

Blah. :p So what's a Coreo? The little brother of Choreo? :tt2:

nahh, at this time i spelled it correct!:lol:
coreo is what we call all those things at the teams entrance, all those displays, even if they are only flares, banners or everything else in "our language" we call them coreo.;)
some use choreo from choreography, but coreo is what i learned all this time, and what i usually find in the "fans dictionary" :p

Fuserg9:star:

Killfacer

20th February 2009, 22:35

21st February 2009, 11:13

What is there to discuss? I don't think the bayern one is done by fans. I think the omonia one is. I won't deny its possible for fans to organise something that large, but i doubt the bayern one was organised by fans.

I dont know if it wasnt by the fans, i think it is stupid if fans didnt do it and let the club or someone else, but i have no idea about the particular one!