Am I the only one here who DOESN'T like Metal?

[LOLseph Stalin]

Ok, well I admit I like a couple Metal bands such as Nightwish, but overall I can't stand it. Most of it just sounds like screaming to me. One thing that really defines "good" music to me is good vocals.

[F9]

im not either in the metal thing, i dont know how many times i posted this, probably many:lol:, but i am more reggae and hip-hop listener!

[LOLseph Stalin]

I'll listen to almost anything, but lately it has been techno/trance for me.

[CommieCat]

No, you're not alone. The music gives me a headache.

[ZeroNowhere]

Hopefully. And if you're not a metal head you might as well be dead.
Anyways, what metal bands have you listened to so far?

[scarletghoul]

I like some screamo n shit, but in general metal sucks. Most of it doesn't mean anything, and is unoriginal and pointless. Nightwish sucks.

Rap Metal is cool though, and some other crossover genres.

[LOLseph Stalin]

what metal bands have you listened to so far?

I don't know, but most metal songs I have heard just sound like screaming.

[Pirate Utopian]

Metal blows!

[Holden Caulfield]

metal is a shitfest load of noise from classically trained public school boys

[Invader Zim]

I like metal.

[thinkerOFthoughts]

Ok, well I admit I like a couple Metal bands such as Nightwish, but overall I can't stand it. Most of it just sounds like screaming to me. One thing that really defines "good" music to me is good vocals.

you want good vocals? well this is what the doctor orders :) he has a brilliant voice!! and sounds better live:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJeqUW-T5hE

[FreeFocus]

I don't like metal at all really..

[ZeroNowhere]

I don't know, but most metal songs I have heard just sound like screaming.
Most modern 'metal' isn't metal (see: Shitknot), and does just sound like screaming. Thus my curiosity, seeing as there is loads of metal without harsh vocals (that make up the majority of ones that I listen to, actually).
Still, good vocals? What kind of vocals would you say are good?
Try 'The Devil's Hall of Fame' by Beyond Twilight. Also 'Heaven and Hell' by Black Sabbath (try 'Mob Rules' if you like that), 'Holy Diver' by Dio, 'Into the Depths of Sorrow' and 'Through the Darkest Hour' by Solitude Aeturnus, and 'Watching From a Distance' by Warning.

Then again, to fully enjoy metal, one has to get used to listening in a rather different way to vocal-centric music, which took me a while to get used to. Especially metal with harsh vocals, or just fairly crappy vocals like Blind Illusion (who are still awesome). Or, hell, demon frog vocals (Demilich).

Also, I would recommend Jag Panzer's 'Ample Destruction'. It's pretty much the pinnacle of USPM, and Harry Conklin is god.


I like some screamo n shit, but in general metal sucks. Most of it doesn't mean anything, and is unoriginal and pointless. Nightwish sucks.
Well, you like screamo, so... :tt2:
Though yes, Nightwish sucks.


metal is a shitfest load of noise from classically trained public school boys
Agalloch disagrees.

[Picky Bugger]

Wheres the Melody, Wheres the Love :wub:

Metal is for people who play World of Warcraft therefore its arse...

[LeninBalls]

I used to love all genres of Metal but I don't listen to it often anymore. Trust me, there's a lot more to it than screaming.

[brigadista]

it just reminds me of spinal tap - i also dont like hardcore techno seems really pointless - but maybe that is the point

[Lynx]

Is Scratching Post considered metal?

Metal is not a genre I like, with the odd exception.

[Coggeh]

Is Scratching Post considered metal?

Metal is not a genre I like, with the odd exception.
Ya same , in general it hurts my head , I'm more blues , alt rock, hip hop inclined:)

[hugsandmarxism]

Metal offends my ears. Jpop is more my thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIDhmlbDMRI&feature=PlayList&p=3CD240A62DBEBA3E&playnext=1&index=5

Beforu ftw :wub:

[Coggeh]

Metal offends my ears. Jpop is more my thing.

kIDhmlbDMRI

Beforu ftw :wub:
Awwww:blushing: huggeh ^^

[Dóchas]

if you dont like metal then deicide and cannibal corpse will really get you going ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk4gSTsR8V4

edit: ill listen to anything really i do like the occasinal metal but in general it just annoying

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

You're not alone. Metal is my absolute least favorite type of music on Earth.

[Comrade B]

Don't like metal. Songs are too long, lyrics are stupid, and there are too many stupid solos in a repeated manner.

I like Reggae, some rap, punk, ska, and a lot of indy.

[elux]

i like rap metel more.

[Skin_HeadBanger]

Wheres the Melody, Wheres the Love :wub:

Metal is for people who play World of Warcraft therefore its arse...


yes, a bit of it is, but theres also a lot of political bands.

metal is more than screaming. for anyone who knows music theory and isn't sold on metal being incredibly technical/genious (obviously not all of it, of course), I suggest checking out Meshuggah.

I love metal, always have always will, and if you think less of me for it you can fuck yourself :p


but yes, nu-metal and rap metal and metalcore and screamo, and a lot of newage grindcore and that bullshit sucks. Can't stand bands like Slipknot, Killswitch Engage, Avenged Sevenfold, or Annotations of an Autopsy.
I'm a death/extreme/thrash/speed/classic metal and oldschool grindcore kinda guy.

[LOLseph Stalin]

You're not alone. Metal is my absolute least favorite type of music on Earth.

Yay! I'm not the only one. Gold Star for that! :thumbup1:

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

I hate metal.

Hip Hop. Reggae, Ska, Jazz, Blues, some good Rock bands...but no metal

[Vendetta]

I hate metal.

Hip Hop. Reggae, Ska, Jazz, Blues, some good Rock bands...but no metal

Basically this. I fucking hate metal.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I like Metal. Especially stuff like Fear Factory and Slayer.

The only genre of music I can honestly say I hate is R&B.

[LOLseph Stalin]

I don't really "hate" any music. In every genre I have the odd band or songs that I like.

[Akim]

Rammstein has some desent songs , but usually I hate metal.

[LOLseph Stalin]

Rammstein has some desent songs , but usually I hate metal.

Rammstein is actually one of the few metal bands I like.

[Pirate Utopian]

Laibach > Rammstein

And Laibach only has a few good songs.

[Picky Bugger]

yes, a bit of it is, but theres also a lot of political bands.

metal is more than screaming. for anyone who knows music theory and isn't sold on metal being incredibly technical/genious (obviously not all of it, of course), I suggest checking out Meshuggah.

I love metal, always have always will, and if you think less of me for it you can fuck yourself :p


but yes, nu-metal and rap metal and metalcore and screamo, and a lot of newage grindcore and that bullshit sucks. Can't stand bands like Slipknot, Killswitch Engage, Avenged Sevenfold, or Annotations of an Autopsy.
I'm a death/extreme/thrash/speed/classic metal and oldschool grindcore kinda guy.

I wouldn't think less of you for liking metal, it's just not my cup of cha. My current flatmate is a metalhead so I hear quite a lot of the stuff and whilst I wouldn't choose to listen to it I can see the technical quality behind some of it.

[Killfacer]

metal is a shitfest load of noise from classically trained public school boys

agreed

[Wanted Man]

I like some screamo n shit, but in general metal sucks. Most of it doesn't mean anything, and is unoriginal and pointless. Nightwish sucks.

Rap Metal is cool though, and some other crossover genres.
Screamo, Nightwish and rap metal don't really have much to do with metal as far as I'm concerned. Pira-- err, purchase an Iron Maiden album like "Number of the Beast", "Piece of Mind" or "Powerslave" and listen to it.

[Dr.Claw]

Some metal is ok but for the most part it all sounds the same,and some metal shit is just a poor rip off of punk, but hey thats just me.

Can anybody tell me why they even bother to have bass players in bands like lamb of god, and all that remains? theyre tuned down so low that they might as well just be percussion.

[Political_Chucky]

Are The Mars Volta considered metal? I like them, different taste of music

[Djehuti]

I like a few bands, Judas Priest and Meshuggah for example, but I find most of the genre to be quite booring.

[LOLseph Stalin]

purchase an Iron Maiden album like "Number of the Beast", "Piece of Mind" or "Powerslave" and listen to it.

Hehe. I like Iron Maiden. I blame my friend for getting me hooked. >.<

[Chapter 24]

A lot of my favorite bands are metal. A LOT of 'em are. And none of the vocals are screaming - there are growls, howls, shrieks, pig-squeals, and the occasional note that sends a straight chill down your spine, but no screaming.

[Nietzsche's Ghost]

I like some metal, but I don't listen to it on a regular basis. Folk, older blues, rock, and punk are more of my thing. Metal is really really good to lift weights to though. I guess all the screaming triggers something primal that gets your adrenaline going, lol.

[Chapter 24]

if you dont like metal then deicide and cannibal corpse will really get you going ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk4gSTsR8V4

edit: ill listen to anything really i do like the occasinal metal but in general it just annoying

HOLY SHIT!! You are my hero just for posting that. Brutal's not my favorite but it's definitely something different. Plus the drums are fucking intense! :drool:

[Skin_HeadBanger]

I wouldn't think less of you for liking metal, it's just not my cup of cha. My current flatmate is a metalhead so I hear quite a lot of the stuff and whilst I wouldn't choose to listen to it I can see the technical quality behind some of it.

That line was actually tongue in cheek. I figured no one would really put down someone for likin metal, especially on this forum.

[Glorious Union]

I don't pick the music I based by its genre, but instead I choose what I listen to for its sound. I haven't found a metal song that I like, but I am sure there are quite a few good ones I haven't heard yet.

[LOLseph Stalin]

I don't pick the music I based by its genre, but instead I choose what I listen to for its sound. I haven't found a metal song that I like, but I am sure there are quite a few good ones I haven't heard yet.

Damn, I should have been more specific at the beginning of this thread as that is how I typically choose music.

[Dóchas]

HOLY SHIT!! You are my hero just for posting that. Brutal's not my favorite but it's definitely something different. Plus the drums are fucking intense! :drool:

its fucking hilarious and the even funnier thing is that he is actually saying something hes not just growling :laugh:. although i have to admit i do like the thundering drums

[Killfacer]

Screamo, Nightwish and rap metal don't really have much to do with metal as far as I'm concerned. Pira-- err, purchase an Iron Maiden album like "Number of the Beast", "Piece of Mind" or "Powerslave" and listen to it.

I needed time to think to get the memories from my mind,
What did i see? COULD I BELIEVE?
That what i saw that night was real and not just fantasy.
Cus in my dreams
Its always there
Evil face that twists my mind and brings me to despair
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Night was black, no use holding back
Cus i just had to see what you mean
In the night dark figures move and twist
was all this for real or just some crazy hell?

SIX..SIX SIX The number of the beast
Hell and fire
is more to be released?

[ZeroNowhere]

Can anybody tell me why they even bother to have bass players in bands like lamb of god, and all that remains?
Not relevant to metal, since they aren't, but presumably for the same reason Underoath does. That is, who knows?
Which reminds me, it turns out that even Underoath's debut sucked, though less so than the rest of the crap they put out.


pig-squeals
Ew. :P

[Invader Zim]

Metal is actually a very diverse genre, there is little to compare band like Sonata Arctica (who are pretty much to metal what early Arnie films are to cinema; cheese but supprisingly watchable) and say a progerssive metal band like tool.

[Wanted Man]

Metal is actually a very diverse genre, there is little to compare band like Sonata Arctica (who are pretty much to metal what early Arnie films are to cinema; cheese but supprisingly watchable) and say a progerssive metal band like tool.
Power metal bands like Sonata Arctica are definitely a guilty pleasure for me. Hammerfall and Rhapsody of Fire. Especially Rhapsody, with the singer's funny Italian pronunciations while singing in English.

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[Panda Tse Tung]

Metal is for people who take life too seriously.
Where's the music in it?
There isn't, see?

[ZeroNowhere]

Eh, I don't like Rhapsody (of Fire), but if you like them, you should also like Aquaria ('Heart of the Gods') and Fairyland ('The Fall of an Empire'). Yes, I know, 'Fairyland'? Hell, you listen to Rhapsody, you should be used to cheese by now.
I don't especially like them, but they're fairly similar in style, and I remember liking them when I was a Rhapsody fan.


Sonata Arctica (who are pretty much to metal what early Arnie films are to cinema; cheese but supprisingly watchable)
:D
I'm not much of a fan of them either, but that's accurate.
However, the most awesome cheesy band ever would be Timeless Miracle.

Down to the gallows at the end of a rope
I will die as a sinner, Woah-oh-oh-oh!

Werewolves + Cheese = Win. Werewolves + Pedophiles = Twilight.


progerssive metal band like tool.
Or Spiral Architect.
Dream Theater + Even more complexity - Annoyingness = What the fuck.

[Invader Zim]

I have to confess that I have a big soft spot for Sonata Arctica, I've seen them three times; though in my defence, I never actually bought tickets for myself, I went either to keep a friend company or to prevent a ticket being wasted. Normally I don't see a lot of metal, I tend to listen 'softer' genres of rock music.

That said, they were great each time and put on a blindingly good show, as have most of the other metal bands I have seen.

[ZeroNowhere]

I have to confess that I have a big soft spot for Sonata Arctica, I've seen them three times; though in my defence, I never actually bought tickets for myself, I went either to keep a friend company or to prevent a ticket being wasted. Normally I don't see a lot of metal, I tend to listen 'softer' genres of rock music.

That said, they were great each time and put on a blindingly good show, as have most of the other metal bands I have seen.
Fair enough. I know a few people who are fellow USPM fans but like Sonata Arctica, so it's probably more a matter of taste. Also, when it comes to European power metal, have you heard Hibria? Hibria are pretty fast, and if you like Ecliptica-era (and their similar pre-Unia albums) Sonata Arctica, you should like them. Of course, they're fairly different, but still awesome. Also, most SA fans I've seen enjoy early Stratovarius albums, such as 'Visions'.


Metal is for people who take life too seriously.
Where's the music in it?
There isn't, see?
I AM POSSESSED BY FIRE!!!

[Skin_HeadBanger]

Metal is for people who take life too seriously.
Where's the music in it?
There isn't, see?
FAIL.

And as far as the bass thing goes, in my band, its a running joke that our bassist isn't necessary. (I'm a bassist, too, so it's ok for me to make jokes like that:laugh:)

In truth, it's a lie. We add Cryptopsy-esque bass parts, and even when our bassist is following my guitar part, it adds much more depth to the sound.

[Picky Bugger]

That line was actually tongue in cheek. I figured no one would really put down someone for likin metal, especially on this forum.

Yeah I got that the smiley gave it away really, saying that though I do know of people who would think less of you for liking metal. Its silly but it happens...

[Skin_HeadBanger]

Yeah I got that the smiley gave it away really, saying that though I do know of people who would think less of you for liking metal. Its silly but it happens...

Ya, I hear ya.

Not gonna lie though, your avatar is pretty metal.:lol:

[Invincible Summer]

Metal is actually a very diverse genre, there is little to compare band like Sonata Arctica (who are pretty much to metal what early Arnie films are to cinema; cheese but supprisingly watchable) and say a progerssive metal band like tool.


I think a better idea of the spectrum would be Sonata Arctica, Pain of Salvation, Ayreon (prog/power metal stuff) to My Dying Bride, Agalloch (melancholy, slightly doomy stuff) to Cryptopsy, Nile, Morbid Angel (all-out brutality fest)

[Kernewek]

I find metal to be really boring for the most part

ministry did some allright stuff and I don't mind extremem noise terror, but I only really know them cus of the stuff they did with the klf

[Invincible Summer]

I find metal to be really boring for the most part

ministry did some allright stuff and I don't mind extremem noise terror, but I only really know them cus of the stuff they did with the klf


I like Ministry, but I find lots of their new stuff is just repeating one riff over and over.


If you like Ministry though, you should check out Fear Factory and Mnemic. They're much better and less boring, IMO.

[Decommissioner]

I love metal, as I also love hardcore, punk, some hip hop, indie, electro. It really just depends on what you hear from each genre. Every genre is filled with mediocre/awful music (nightwish fits under this in my humble opinion). You just have to seek out the real stuff.

As far as screaming is concerned, sometimes it boggles my mind to think that there are people who cant stand it. But I can understand it, if all someone is exposed to is formulaic and generic screaming bands, than there isn't much reason to appreciate it. For me, screaming and yelling is just as poignant as singing, so long as I know theres a reason they are screaming. There is something about someone yelling at the top of their lungs, giving it their all that conveys a passion and sincerity that you don't find too often in most mainstream music.

If I am going to talk about the injustices of capitalism through the medium of music, I am sure as hell not going to sing it, I would rather convey anger and through anger achieve a release.

[Kernewek]

I like Ministry, but I find lots of their new stuff is just repeating one riff over and over.


If you like Ministry though, you should check out Fear Factory and Mnemic. They're much better and less boring, IMO.
yeah I'm not really into their newer stuff, doesn't have enouth synths

I've heard fear factory before, not really my thing tbh

[Emily]

I like Ministry, but I find lots of their new stuff is just repeating one riff over and over.


If you like Ministry though, you should check out Fear Factory and Mnemic. They're much better and less boring, IMO.

Love the KLF.

I'm really not a big fan of metal. I like almost everything else though.

[Invincible Summer]

I love metal, as I also love hardcore, punk, some hip hop, indie, electro. It really just depends on what you hear from each genre. Every genre is filled with mediocre/awful music (nightwish fits under this in my humble opinion). You just have to seek out the real stuff.

As far as screaming is concerned, sometimes it boggles my mind to think that there are people who cant stand it. But I can understand it, if all someone is exposed to is formulaic and generic screaming bands, than there isn't much reason to appreciate it. For me, screaming and yelling is just as poignant as singing, so long as I know theres a reason they are screaming. There is something about someone yelling at the top of their lungs, giving it their all that conveys a passion and sincerity that you don't find too often in most mainstream music.

If I am going to talk about the injustices of capitalism through the medium of music, I am sure as hell not going to sing it, I would rather convey anger and through anger achieve a release.

I am with you on screaming. I used to be into a lot of death metal (still am) but I've sort of moved past the whole cookie-monster growling. I've always preferred bands that had vocals more like Behemoth, Neurosis, Pantera, etc that's more like scream-shouting than growling. A lot more passion in that than growling, IMO.

Also, I don't understand how some stuck-up people can say that even some power metal singers are "screaming too much" when they sing aggressively. I've heard people say that Symphony X's Russell Allen "screams."

[communard resolution]

I like a fair amount of metal. It's a broad genre really.

I can't say I 'get' most death metal, but Slayer are one of my fave bands.

[RHIZOMES]

I don't listen to much metal but beyond a little tongue-in-cheek riffing on stereotypes about metalheads I respect it as a genre, because as a fan of rap I know how it feels to be surrounded by people who say your music tastes are shit :mad:.

[Led Zeppelin]

I don't really listen to a lot of metal either.

There are some artists who have some metal influences that I do like though, such as RATM, Porcupine Tree, Black Sabbath, and of course Led Zeppelin.

[Das war einmal]

Iced Earth is on atm, so I have to say METAL IS AWESOME! Coming up; Megadeth

[Das war einmal]

'Idea for a song: murder. A guy. A guy gets murdered. And eaten. At an all-you-can-eat buffet' -Nathan Explosion, Dethklok

[Wanted Man]

I don't really listen to a lot of metal either.

There are some artists who have some metal influences that I do like though, such as RATM, Porcupine Tree, Black Sabbath, and of course Led Zeppelin.
Black Sabbath are metal...

And I agree with what someone said about "screaming". There is a lot of ignorance. A lot of people think that singers of bands like Iron Maiden, Helloween and others with "clean" vocals are actually "screaming"...

[BurnTheOliveTree]

I only properly get into SOAD and Sikth. Iron Maiden and Judas Priest etc sound cheesy and silly to me, stuff like KillSwitch is good but too brutal for me, and it just generally doesn't sound nice.

The weird thing is a lot of metal bands have excellent lyrics, but you haven't a hope of hearing it because they scream and spit all over them.

-Alex

[Invincible Summer]

'Idea for a song: murder. A guy. A guy gets murdered. And eaten. At an all-you-can-eat buffet' -Nathan Explosion, Dethklok


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGPvsKzrRi8

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I don't listen to much metal but beyond a little tongue-in-cheek riffing on stereotypes about metalheads I respect it as a genre, because as a fan of rap I know how it feels to be surrounded by people who say your music tastes are shit :mad:.

Which is funny really, since I've seen a lot of metalheads pour scorn on rap.

Myself, I think most rap nowadays is junk. But there is gold amongst the muck - Onyx is an example of a rap group (or is it hip-hop? I find it hard to tell) that I like.

[Chicano Shamrock]

I don't really like most of the screaming stuff. I don't really know too much about metal but I like Megadeth. They are the shit imo. Also I love Sabbath and Zeppelin if you call them metal.

MEne1SCBN9E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEne1SCBN9E)

^^^^ that is because I'm unfortunately not cool enough to know how to post a video on a forum like everyone else. Fuck you guys. But for real though how do I do that?

Edit #2 Hey guys I found out how to do it im cool now.

[commyrebel]

Ok, well I admit I like a couple Metal bands such as Nightwish, but overall I can't stand it. Most of it just sounds like screaming to me. One thing that really defines "good" music to me is good vocals. hey metal is awesome and the screaming you listen to is called(scremo) hardcore or metal-core or grind core( which i love) you should listen to some black sabbath( the first metal band ever) and ozzy

[LOLseph Stalin]

hey metal is awesome and the screaming you listen to is called(scremo) hardcore or metal-core or grind core( which i love) you should listen to some black sabbath( the first metal band ever) and ozzy

Somehow Black Sabbath ended up on my computer. Most likely my mom...

[Invincible Summer]

hey metal is awesome and the screaming you listen to is called(scremo) hardcore or metal-core or grind core( which i love) you should listen to some black sabbath( the first metal band ever) and ozzy

You wouldn't call this screaming?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viKA5n-6AHw

or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaN3YEbYbng

Both metal bands, not any of those -core genres.


Oh and for anyone who dislikes screaming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SiBcMCaHL0

[commyrebel]

yes those are death metal/black metal bands which is the closet to the core genre

[Das war einmal]

Dutch Gothic acts enjoy large popularity outside the country. Within Temptation, After Forever and Epica seem to have thousands of fans. When I saw them, I did so at relatively small and free concerts.

[Invincible Summer]

Dutch Gothic acts enjoy large popularity outside the country. Within Temptation, After Forever and Epica seem to have thousands of fans. When I saw them, I did so at relatively small and free concerts.


Free concerts are only a fantasy where I'm from, unless you like to listen to shitty seafarer folk

[BurnTheOliveTree]

Myself, I think most rap nowadays is junk. But there is gold amongst the muck - Onyx is an example of a rap group (or is it hip-hop? I find it hard to tell) that I like.


Yeah, totally agree. Scroobius Pip is another example of gold amongst the muck - probably among the best lyricists I have ever come across.

-Alex

[ZeroNowhere]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGPvsKzrRi8
I was thinking of that as soon as I read the post you quoted. My one desire, my only wish is to be... EEEEAAAAAAAATEEEEEEEN...
Too bad they've turned into a fairly average band now. :(


Iron Maiden and Judas Priest etc sound cheesy and silly to me
Which albums?

[Led Zeppelin]

Black Sabbath are metal...

Hmm, yeah, I suppose that's true, though I always considered them to fall under the Hard Rock category as well.

And I forgot to mention, Iron Maiden is also good.

[Wanted Man]

Hmm, yeah, I suppose that's true, though I always considered them to fall under the Hard Rock category as well.

And I forgot to mention, Iron Maiden is also good.
Well, as one of the most important bands that put metal on the map in the first place, calling Sabbath metal only makes sense. Of course, it's subjective. But to me, Sabbath stand closer to the metal bands (in fact, they are one of the most important ones) than to the Aerosmiths, Guns 'n Roses and Van Halens of this world.

[RHIZOMES]

Which is funny really, since I've seen a lot of metalheads pour scorn on rap.

Yeah, so it is hard to not diss metal when so many metalheads seem to be complete fucktards :lol:.


Myself, I think most rap nowadays is junk. But there is gold amongst the muck - Onyx is an example of a rap group (or is it hip-hop? I find it hard to tell) that I like.

I agree that most rap nowadays is junk. Onyx isn't really rap nowadays though. They were in their heyday between '93 to '95.

[NecroCommie]

I only listen to metal and game/movie soundtracks. If you like music there is a genre of metal you like, and you just haven't searched enough.

And how did this thread start? So far I have rarely met any leftists who like metal. :confused:

Anyway I am now listening to "Megadeth: Blackmail the universe"
And I suggest you dudes check Rhapsody --->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEMeBTmiX4g
Rhapsody is my frikin religion!!!

[Dóchas]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBH0Bd9Z1VA&feature=related

id sya metal is gonna turn into something like this soon. here the guys from the show metalocalypse are promoting Duncan Hills Coffee. listen carefully the lyrics are so funny :thumbup:

[NecroCommie]

Prepare for the ultimate flavour!! I scream for the cream!!!! This song is needlessly epic.

I loved the first season so much. Also listen to: "awaken mustakrakish"

[Dóchas]

"blacker than the blackest infinty!!!!!!!!"

man you just gotta love it!! :lol:

[Louis Pio]

Well there's crap in all genres, but to just write metal off as screaming and bad musicianship is extremely stupid.
One just needs to listen to Death, Carcass or Fear Factory to see how the genre can also be complete genius.
Most of the mainstream metal they show on MTV of course aren't nowere near that level

[LOLseph Stalin]

Well there's crap in all genres, but to just write metal off as screaming and bad musicianship is extremely stupid.

Yea I guess that's pretty much true, but so far I haven't run into very much metal I actually like.

[Blackscare]

Ever listen to Tool? I suppose it's not strictly metal, but their early work is close.

It's a little old school, nothing fancy like Dutch Goth rock :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt0Zqo-vOFM

[LOLseph Stalin]

Tool? I have heard a few of their songs on a Guitar Hero game. I thought they were actually quite good.

[Das war einmal]

Ever listen to Tool? I suppose it's not strictly metal, but their early work is close.

It's a little old school, nothing fancy like Dutch Goth rock :D

xt0Zqo-vOFM


Well I dont really like Dutch Goth rock, I'm a big Tool fan myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uc9r1uf5ms

[Das war einmal]

Tool? I have heard a few of their songs on a Guitar Hero game. I thought they were actually quite good.


Lol many people now know metal songs purely out of Guitar Hero, this is a bit embarrassing for metalheads. however this might be a good development alltogether.

[LOLseph Stalin]

Lol many people now know metal songs purely out of Guitar Hero, this is a bit embarrassing for metalheads. however this might be a good development alltogether.

It could be a good thing for metalheads. It could create more metalheads!

[Skin_HeadBanger]

It could be a good thing for metalheads. It could create more metalheads!

When I was in high school, GH just bred kids thinking that they could play guitar despite 0 knowledge of guitar and kids wearing Lamb of God shirts that have only heard "Laid to Rest"... one of my least favorite songs of theirs.:rolleyes:

[LOLseph Stalin]

When I was in high school, GH just bred kids thinking that they could play guitar despite 0 knowledge of guitar and kids wearing Lamb of God shirts that have only heard "Laid to Rest"... one of my least favorite songs of theirs.http://www.revleft.com/vb/am-only-one-p1384823/revleft/smilies/001_rolleyes.gif

Well those are the posers. Posers are lame. :closedeyes:

[Das war einmal]

When I was in high school, GH just bred kids thinking that they could play guitar despite 0 knowledge of guitar and kids wearing Lamb of God shirts that have only heard "Laid to Rest"... one of my least favorite songs of theirs.:rolleyes:

Exactly my point, claiming to have knowledge of metal and hard rock only because they played GH.

The metal scene is, in part, a subculture existing out of people who are disgusted by trendsetters and such. Capitalist influence and their efforts to make a buck out of this scene is generally shown with disgust, though I wouldnt say that the metal scene is generally on the left. I think its quite a-politic

[brigadista]

personally i loathe all this music but if you like it enjoy it

[Das war einmal]

You might find this strange but metal truelly makes me feel energetic, more happy, it has soul :D

[A_Ciarra]

Call me judgmental, but when it comes to metal bands I'm usually overcome with thoughts of superficial rebellion, trying way to hard...

I want some reggae & soul, and some serious politics, not a show of black clothing, annoying angst and image. There are a few fairly decent metal songs for me, but it's rare, and they draw is fleeting.

"Ouch," that was slightly brutal of me. My deepest apologies to the metal heads. :sneaky:

[GiantBear91]

Very true... But there are a few metal bands that actually have a good messege to put out... VERY FEW.

Ever since Pantera broke up, the only metal Ill actually listen to is Sepultura or anything Max Cavalera has done... And if you count Rage Against the Machine metal then yeah im definatly a fan of them.

[Manifesto]

Metal is the best. Rap sucks.

[Jazzratt]

Metal is the best. Rap sucks.

I hate this attitude. People who define their musical taste as much by what they hate as what they like. Especially when it's unrelated; in a thread about metal why bring up what you think of rap?

Personally I think metal is great and I feel less indignant and angry about comments like A_Ciarra's describing metal as "a show of black clothing, annoying angst and image" and more a sense of pity that someone doesn't appreciate some of the greatest music in the world.

If you don't like metal it's your loss and no skin off my nose. But I would make this defence for a lot of genres.

[STJ]

Metal sucks!

[*Viva La Revolucion*]

I don't like metal! I don't even care whether or not it's pretentious or 'quality music', I just don't like listening to it.

[gorillafuck]

I listen to some metal. I like how fast thrash metal is, regardless of how corny the lyrics are.

[GiantBear91]

Ok, well I admit I like a couple Metal bands such as Nightwish, but overall I can't stand it. Most of it just sounds like screaming to me. One thing that really defines "good" music to me is good vocals.


I just remembered this! I used to be in a hardcore/progressive band and the first show we played was with some of the biggist hardcore bands in the aera that actually believed in true music with a great message. Well the lead singer for a vegan, edge band called Fisticuffs, was at the show. After our set he was like "wow man I really liked the music, I also loved the lyrics" My mother was there also(she is very supportive of the things that I do haha) Well when she heard him say that she asked him "I could hardly even hear what he was saying, why do you guys have to scream all the time?" (this is the reason why I posted this) Eric(fisticuffs singer) told my mother that "Sometimes, whenever no one will listen to your messege or what you think needs to be heard is not heard... you need to scream it so it will grab their attention and they will listen to your messege."

Thats pretty much why people scream so much in metal or hardcore for that matter.

Just thought I would share that. Also if you want some of the bands who played the show, or just have a good message to put out to the world then here you go: [all of them are from North Carolina] Deathblow(www.myspace.com/deathblow (http://www.myspace.com/deathblow)) Fisticuffs(http://www.myspace.com/fisticuffsx) Torch Runner(http://www.myspace.com/torchrunnernc) Never In Life(http://www.myspace.com/neverinlifenc)
:) enjoy,
Bear.

[Manifesto]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nQ4ZR-NI6A

[LeninBalls]

I also think that the anti-metal people are using metal as a very narrow term. As in, they associate metal with simply stuff as the screaming, generic breakdown stuff like Pantera or Machine Head and other such nonsense.

Metal can be a very creative thing completely different from all other forms of music, like Tool or Sunn 0))), (which I personally wouldn't call metal but are globally classified as so) for example.

[taryn]

you want good vocals? well this is what the doctor orders :) he has a brilliant voice!! and sounds better live:)


I was actually going to mention Kamelot to dispel the screaming myth (another great song is "Wander"). I love metal but most of the stuff I listen to is the more symphonic/progressive/power metal stuff like Kamelot, Symphony X, Rush, Iron Maiden, Elvenking, Rhapsody of Fire...

Speaking of great vocalists, Fabio Lione is one of my favorites. He sings for Vision Divine, Rhapsody of Fire and Labyrinth. Italian vocalists FTW.

Yeah, there's some shit metal but saying "metal sucks" based on Cannibal Corpse is kind of like saying "punk sucks" based on Green Day.

[Module]

Rush is an amazing band. They're not 'metal' though!
InsertNameHere, I feel ya. A lot of metal sounds like screamy crap, but a lot of it is really wonderful.
Queensryche!!!!
Helloween!!!
Kreator!!
Hibria!
Were my favourite metal bands.
I actually haven't listened to any metal in months. I haven't properly listened to music since before I left Australia.

[A_Ciarra]

Metal is NOT "a show of black clothing" ---- that would just be my general feelings that often get in the way of me enjoying much of it. The imaging for me just get's in the way of the music possibilities. I like things more down to earth overall. But to say that metal is strictly "a show" would be for me to spit on music all together, and I could never do that in just about any genre.

I DO like some metal myself, but more like Crisis with Holocaust, or the early rock bands that take (and retain) some blues, or African percussion influence rather than stripping that out as a feature of their style. I don't feel a loss about not enjoying metal much, I just know what musical elements move me to a greater degree than another, and at which moments I prefer one style over another for any given mood.

It's always important not to read excessive ideals into people's general comment's too, no matter who or what is being commented on.

[taryn]

Rush is an amazing band. They're not 'metal' though!


They're not a strictly metal band but they've incorporated it into some of their songs especially in their earlier work (such as their self titled release).

[Skin_HeadBanger]

Call me judgmental, but when it comes to metal bands I'm usually overcome with thoughts of superficial rebellion, trying way to hard...

I want some reggae & soul, and some serious politics, not a show of black clothing, annoying angst and image. There are a few fairly decent metal songs for me, but it's rare, and they draw is fleeting.

"Ouch," that was slightly brutal of me. My deepest apologies to the metal heads. :sneaky:

I believe your thinking of "goth" metal (not really metal but for some reason, middle school kids like to think it is) Ala Marilyn Manson (whom I do despise, for reasons stated in another thread, don't want this turning into another thread about him.) Either that, or you're looking for something in music in general that just isn't there.

And to GiantBear91, obviously, you've never really checked out grindcore when it comes to the message. Think of really fast, really heavy anarcho-punk in both sound and message.

[Module]

I just remembered this! I used to be in a hardcore/progressive band and the first show we played was with some of the biggist hardcore bands in the aera that actually believed in true music with a great message. Well the lead singer for a vegan, edge band called Fisticuffs, was at the show. After our set he was like "wow man I really liked the music, I also loved the lyrics" My mother was there also(she is very supportive of the things that I do haha) Well when she heard him say that she asked him "I could hardly even hear what he was saying, why do you guys have to scream all the time?" (this is the reason why I posted this) Eric(fisticuffs singer) told my mother that "Sometimes, whenever no one will listen to your messege or what you think needs to be heard is not heard... you need to scream it so it will grab their attention and they will listen to your messege."Well, nice idea... but not really true, now, is it?
If no one will listen to your message they're sure as hell not going to be more likely to listen to it when you're yelling it unintelligably.

Something I have to say does almost annoy me about 'political' 'screamy' bands is that they can say the most ridiculous crap but still have a bunch of followers who think it's 'so true, man' because the lyrics sheet looks meaningful.
But yeah, somebody yelling a message over some power chords, to the metalheads/crust punks out there probably does give it more authority. Not to everybody else, though. Not to the normal people. ;)

[9]

I can't stand anything with heavy distortion and screaming. I don't even like electric instruments (with a few mild exceptions - usually jazz, blues, and the Beatles), so I'd say I probably hate metal and screamo and similar loud, sloppy music more than any other kind.

[Nwoye]

I really don't care for metal, and I usually find it incredibly boring, derivative and uninspired.

[Skin_HeadBanger]

I can't stand anything with heavy distortion and screaming. I don't even like electric instruments (with a few mild exceptions - usually jazz, blues, and the Beatles), so I'd say I probably hate metal and screamo and similar loud, sloppy music more than any other kind.
I find 2 faults here....
1. Likening metal to screamo.
2. Generalizing metal as "sloppy". Listen to Dying Fetus or Origin. I don't care whether you like it or not, but it is anything but "sloppy."

[Skin_HeadBanger]

Well, nice idea... but not really true, now, is it?
If no one will listen to your message they're sure as hell not going to be more likely to listen to it when you're yelling it unintelligably.

Something I have to say does almost annoy me about 'political' 'screamy' bands is that they can say the most ridiculous crap but still have a bunch of followers who think it's 'so true, man' because the lyrics sheet looks meaningful.
But yeah, somebody yelling a message over some power chords, to the metalheads/crust punks out there probably does give it more authority. Not to everybody else, though. Not to the normal people. ;)

Once you've been listening to the genre for a while, you can understand it regardless ;)

[Module]

I can't stand anything with heavy distortion and screaming. I don't even like electric instruments (with a few mild exceptions - usually jazz, blues, and the Beatles), so I'd say I probably hate metal and screamo and similar loud, sloppy music more than any other kind.Metal is many things.. but sloppy? Hell no. It's TIGHT and COORDINATED! http://i.pbase.com/u16/karosekali/upload/42053241.headbanger.gif

[Il Medico]

Metal offends my ears.
Pretty much this. I really don't like metal, to much screaming and all they do to make up for it is play loud guitar.

[ZeroNowhere]

Pretty much this. I really don't like metal, to much screaming and all they do to make up for it is play loud guitar.The amusing thing about this is that the first metal band (as well as the best metal bands, speaking as a USPM fan) didn't feature harsh vocals.


Metal is many things.. but sloppy? Hell no. It's TIGHT and COORDINATED!Well, to be fair here, some metal bands could perhaps be characterized as sloppy, such as Fastkill. However, Fastkill are sloppy in a good way. Though mainly tight, yes. Certainly, I've never heard anyone call the 'Beyond the Realms of Death' solo sloppy. Interestingly, the live version in 'The Ultimate Priest in the East' (not released on 'Unleashed in the East' for some strange reason) was quite a bit better than the album version of that song.

[TheFutureOfThePublic]

Ok, well I admit I like a couple Metal bands such as Nightwish, but overall I can't stand it. Most of it just sounds like screaming to me. One thing that really defines "good" music to me is good vocals.

Metallica doesnt have screaming vocals.Neither does Judas Priest,Black Sabbath,Iron Maiden.I think you have just went head first into the more extreme sub-genres that it takes some time to get the ear for.The thing is,metal can be in any shape or form.Black,Death,Thrash,Glam.All have theyr own unique aspects.So dont judge bands by how good theyr "singing" is.Listen to the lyrics and the mood the music creates to get the most out of your metal experience