All of you fuckers better be up in london

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

http://www.putpeoplefirst.org.uk/

On 28th March thousands will march through London as part of a global campaign to challenge the G20, ahead of their 2nd April summit on the global financial crisis.

Even before the banking collapse, the world suffered poverty, inequality and the threat of climate chaos. The world has followed a financial model that has created an economy fuelled by ever-increasing debt, both financial and environmental.

Our future depends on creating an economy based on fair distribution of wealth, decent jobs for all and a low carbon future.

There can be no going back to business as usual.

People from all over the country will join the march on March 28.


http://www.putpeoplefirst.org.uk/wp-content/themes/inove/img/march.gif Be one of them.




Supporter organisations:
ActionAid (http://www.actionaid.org.uk/)
AJCC (http://www.climatecommunity.org/)
ACTSA (http://www.actsa.org/)
Advocacy International (http://www.advocacyinternational.co.uk/)
Akina Mama Wa Africa (http://www.akinamamawafrika.org/)
ATL (http://www.atl.org.uk/)
BECTU (http://www.bectu.org.uk/)
BOND (http://www.bond.org.uk/)
Bretton Woods Project (http://www.brettonwoodsproject.org/)
CAFOD (http://www.cafod.org.uk/)
CDD (http://www.cddwestafrica.org/)
CSP (http://www.csp.org.uk/)
Change is Coming (http://www.changeiscoming.org.uk/)
Christian Aid (http://www.christianaid.org.uk/)
EQUITY (http://www.equity.org.uk/)
Everychild (http://www.everychild.org.uk/)
Fairtrade Foundation (http://www.fairtrade.org.uk/)
Fatima Women's Network (http://www.fatima-network.com/)
Friends of the Earth (http://www.foe.co.uk/)
GCAP (http://www.whiteband.org/)
GMB (http://www.gmb.org.uk/)
Jubilee Debt Campaign (http://www.jubileedebtcampaign.org.uk/)
MRDF (http://www.mrdf.org.uk/pages/home.php)
Musicians Union (http://www.musiciansunion.org.uk/)
Muslim Council of Britain (http://www.mcb.org.uk/)
NUJ (http://www.nuj.org.uk/)
NUT (http://www.teachers.org.uk/)
New Internationalist (http://www.newint.org/)
One World Action (http://www.oneworldaction.org/)
Oxfam (http://www.oxfam.org.uk/)
Pants to Poverty (http://pantstopoverty.com/)
People and Planet (http://peopleandplanet.org/)
PCS (http://www.pcs.org.uk/)
Progressio (http://www.progressio.org.uk/)
RMT (http://www.rmt.org.uk/)
Salvation Army (http://www1.salvationarmy.org.uk/uki/www_uki.nsf)
Save the Children (http://www.savethechildren.org.uk/)
SoR (http://www.sor.org/)
Stamp Out Poverty (http://www.stampoutpoverty.org/)
STOP AIDS Campaign (http://www.stopaidscampaign.org.uk/)
Stop Climate Chaos (http://www.stopclimatechaos.org/)
Tax Justice Network (http://www.taxjustice.net/cms/front_content.php?idcat=2)
Teach a Man to Fish (http://www.teachamantofish.org.uk/)
Tearfund (http://www.tearfund.org/)
Trade Justice Movement (http://www.tjm.org.uk/)
TUC (http://www.tuc.org.uk/)
Trading Visions (http://www.tradingvisions.org/)
Traidcraft (http://www.traidcraft.co.uk/)
UCU (http://www.ucu.org.uk/)
UK Aid Network (http://www.bond.org.uk/pages/uk-aid-network.html)
UNISON (http://www.unison.org.uk/)
UNITE (http://www.unitetheunion.org.uk/)
USDAW (http://www.usdaw.org.uk/)
War on Want (http://www.waronwant.org/)
WILPF (http://www.wilpf.int.ch/world/uk.html)
WDM (http://www.wdm.org.uk/)
World Vision (http://www.worldvision.org.uk/)
WWF (http://www.wwf.org.uk/)

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Yes its organized by wankers but thats no excuse to miss what could be a decent event.

Imagine the effect it would have if it kicked off!

[rednordman]

Sorry to sound ignourant, but why are they wankers? - The idea of this march cannot be a bad thing.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Because the organizations are shit.

The unite union failed to tell 850 workers they were losing there jobs for example.

[rednordman]

Ah, now it makes sense. I must say that there is a lot of organisations involved, where do you think they are going wrong? or do they make an any impact? Are they the sorts of organisations that someone has set up just to look good, or, are their hearts in the correct place, but they do a bad job of things? Sorry for the questions, just im noticing more and more organisations that claim to be progressive and looking to make the world a better place. Alot now involved with big buisnesses also. I dont know how to take them tbh because alot of the times they look like sort of PR stunts to get the public on their sides. Would I be right or wrong with this judgment?

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

They arnt revolutionary and there agendas differ to ours.

Take WWF - this is not about animal rights and banging on about animal rights does fuck all. The only good thing is that they are investing recourses in the march with any luck they will be spent on other things then save the panda signs.

[scarletghoul]

Why 28th March instead of 2nd April?

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Because its a sataday while the 2nd of apirl aint

[scarletghoul]

I see.

[Communist Theory]

i want to shoot the pope in the kneecaps as well comrades.

[Bitter Ashes]

London??? :scared: *goes pale at the thought*
No way I could get down South anyway, sorry.

[Killfacer]

Iv booked the time off already

[Coggeh]

London??? :scared: *goes pale at the thought*
No way I could get down South anyway, sorry.
Ah why comrade ? I'm sure orgs will be organising busses down . I trying to plan to go and I'm in Ireland .

You can do it :)

[Pogue]

They're not wankers just because they disagree with us. I think its arogant and kind of annoying how quick you are to just denounce anyone who thinkd slightly differently from you as an wanker or sometihng similar. Most of those groups dedicate time and effort to try and make the world a better place. Its not as if not being a revolutionary is synonomous with being a wanker.

[Pogue]

We need to think of some tactics and stuff to try and get our message out on the march too, to try and continue a movement against capitalism.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

They're not wankers just because they disagree with us. I think its arogant and kind of annoying how quick you are to just denounce anyone who thinkd slightly differently from you as an wanker or sometihng similar. Most of those groups dedicate time and effort to try and make the world a better place. Its not as if not being a revolutionary is synonomous with being a wanker.

If your opinion differs in any way to mine your a wanker. Its an increadbly unfair and arrogant approach which will get me no where in life and im verry proud of it.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

We need to think of some tactics and stuff to try and get our message out on the march too, to try and continue a movement against capitalism.

This is a good point: I think we should list our options first then allow ourselves to weigh up the advantages and disadvantages

Il start with the obvious

Banners
Newspapers (ffs make them aggressive not passive save the rabbit rubbish)
Talking to people (try to convince any "British jobs for british workers" people to look at real life instead of mail land)

Any more? Happy slapping stewards , bottling george galloway you know the stuff (seriously though this is an important point)

[Bilan]

This aint no workers struggle. Moved to events.

[Pogue]

This is a good point: I think we should list our options first then allow ourselves to weigh up the advantages and disadvantages

Il start with the obvious

Banners
Newspapers (ffs make them aggressive not passive save the rabbit rubbish)
Talking to people (try to convince any "British jobs for british workers" people to look at real life instead of mail land)

Any more? Happy slapping stewards , bottling george galloway you know the stuff (seriously though this is an important point)

Talking is the best method. We want any opposition to continue.

Can't see this demo being very big unless its advertised well though.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Well the TUC will probs make up the main bulk of it.

Theres gotta be another way apart from talking i think making a listen of our options would be good. (megaphones and boomboxes make us look like twats dont use em people unless in the case of megaphones some nationlist prick has one in which case its fine to yell over him)

[Pogue]

Well the TUC will probs make up the main bulk of it.

Theres gotta be another way apart from talking i think making a listen of our options would be good. (megaphones and boomboxes make us look like twats dont use em people unless in the case of megaphones some nationlist prick has one in which case its fine to yell over him)

I'd like to think many people will attend, and they would I reckon, if the thing was advertised.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Well its six weeks away so theres still advertising to be done.

I think theres room to do something in you know when all the speeches are going on because no ones going to be listening to them and trying to work out a discrete way to go to the nearest pub. So i think people would be more willing to listen to us if it takes there minds off the ramblings of unite hacks.

[REVOLUTIONARY32]

We need to think of some tactics and stuff to try and get our message out on the march too, to try and continue a movement against capitalism.

Petrol bombs are usualy a good tactic comrade.

[BOZG]

Petrol bombs are usualy a good tactic comrade.

Yes, capitalism will be brought down by petrol bombs. :rolleyes:

[Pogue]

Petrol bombs are usualy a good tactic comrade.

How are things in the Met these days PC Infiltrator? We don't roll with that shit, terrorism is for terroists, and has nothing to do with working class politics.

[JohannGE]

terrorism is for terroists,

and the police of course, don't let's forget them. ;)


Being a newbie round here, I was wondering if the events of the 1st and 2nd of April are not considered worth publicising? Organised by the wrong people perhaps? I havn't got my head round all this infighting yet. Could be that I am still nieve enough to beleive that anyone organising or turning out against G20 deserved some respect and support. For example:-

April 1st - Banking Fools Day - Reclaim the City, Bank of england
April 2nd - A visit to the delegates hotel to delive a mesage.

G20meltdown.org (no connection)

If I can get transport down I will make a weekend of it.

[Bilan]

Summit protests are usually a waste of time and are absolute rubbish.
But they're fun.

[Patchd]

Would be an idea if I can spare some monies.

[Enragé]

well, if we want this to be big, the SWP, SP, A-Fed and whatever other group out there should start making and printing flyers now and begin handing them out by tomorrow.


Summit protests are usually a waste of time and are absolute rubbish.

i disagree, cuz if they're big enough it will mean 1. a boost for activists everywhere 2. lots of media coverage 3. opening the eyes of many that there is an alternative to all this bullshit and that they shouldnt retreat in the face of the crisis but instead go on the offensive (and, that the latter is possible)

[Bilan]

Yeah but it doesn't do any of that.

[Lord Testicles]

April 1st - Banking Fools Day - Reclaim the City, Bank of england


Talking of which:

http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo298/whitechapelanarchists/G20FrontWEB.gif
http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo298/whitechapelanarchists/G20BackWEB2.gif

[JohannGE]

Thankz Skinz.

I can't do that yet!

[REVOLUTIONARY32]

How are things in the Met these days PC Infiltrator? We don't roll with that shit, terrorism is for terroists, and has nothing to do with working class politics.


Agreed it might be an inapropriot place to mention PBs but grow a set of balls lads throw one PB at the filth lines and its instant world news you cant buy publicity that direct action gets.

[Pogue]

Agreed it might be an inapropriot place to mention PBs but grow a set of balls lads throw one PB at the filth lines and its instant world news you cant buy publicity that direct action gets.

Erm, you first?

[REVOLUTIONARY32]

Erm, you first?


Regrettably I wont be there comrade.

[Pogue]

Regrettably I wont be there comrade.

if you were there and you thrw something at the coppers i'd tell you stop being a knob to be honest, from first hand experience all it means is that some innocents get twatted by some pigs with batons whilst the thrower hides behind their flesh shield

get realistic

[RedDragon]

I'll be in London on that day anyway, so if I get chance to check it out I shall do so. Could be fun.

[JohannGE]

Regrettably I wont be there comrade.

I will and I don't share your regrets!

There is a time and a place for everything. This is neither.

[Greenman]

Summit protests are usually a waste of time and are absolute rubbish.
But they're fun.
The difference with this one, and the ones over the subsequent days that are likely to be more militant and confrontational is that this is the first series of summit protests in a major Capital city in a still worsening economic depression and where the majority of the population are feeling pissed off for various reasons (not all reasons we agree with, but there you go)

Many of the previous summit protests have taken place in what was popularly thought to be an economic boom, amidst public apathy and often in out of the way places like Davos.

March 28th to April 3rd in Britain could be very interesting...

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

I would say the 28th has more potential then the 3rd.

The 3rd has a chance to be a kick in the gonads but the 28th has the potential to be a stab in the face.

[JohannGE]

Further details:-

http://www.g-20meltdown.org/index.html


"The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse will lead carnival parades starting at 11 a.m. from the rail stations:

Moorgate Red horse against War;
Liverpool St Green horse against Climate chaos
London Bridge Silver horse against Financial crimes
Cannon Street Black horse against land enclosures and borders in honour of the 360th full circle anniversary of the Diggers
At 12 noon, April 1st, we're going to reclaim the City, thrusting into the very belly of the beast: the Bank of England.
Early a.m. April 2nd, we're going to bang on their hotel doors, @ the Excel Centre, Canning town to deliver our message of a world beyond capitalism."

Overnight accomodation available in the heart of the city (unless you are already booked into The Dorchester of course :) :-

http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/g20

http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/themes/ccamptheme/images/inflightcropf.png (http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/themes/ccamptheme/images/inflightf.pdf)

[ls]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7955057.stm

"plotting in an unprecedented way"

Not bad.

[Killfacer]

This is getting laughable. People in the press seem to have got it into their heads that thousands of new anarchists are going to smash london to pieces.

[JohannGE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1zci07Kono

[JohannGE]

Due to a family medical crisis I will need to be in Scotland that weekend.

Does anyone know of anything organised for Edinburgh?

[Pogue]

Due to a family medical crisis I will need to be in Scotland that weekend.

Does anyone know of anything organised for Edinburgh?

Well mate, I don't know, everyone is sort of pushing for everyone to be down here, normally when we call a national protest theres one in Glasgow or Edinburgh as well, but I think in this one we want everyone in Scotland to be down here too.

[Pogue]

This is getting laughable. People in the press seem to have got it into their heads that thousands of new anarchists are going to smash london to pieces.

Yeh they really are shitting it. Funny, really.

[OneNamedNameLess]

Yes.

There is a climate march in Edinburgh that day i'm sure. I don't know much about it though and i'm not sure if there are similar themes to the London march besides cliamate obviously.

[OneNamedNameLess]

Due to a family medical crisis I will need to be in Scotland that weekend.

Does anyone know of anything organised for Edinburgh?

That reply was for you sorry.

[JohannGE]

Yes.

There is a climate march in Edinburgh that day i'm sure. I don't know much about it though and i'm not sure if there are similar themes to the London march besides cliamate obviously.

Thanks, I will look into that and take the wrath of the so called Human Progress Group on the chin. ;)

[Sasha]

He said it was his aim to "facilitate lawful protest" and he revealed plans for a special demonstration pen near the Excel Centre to accommodate a few hundred protesters.
But while police had worked closely with some campaigners, the plans of other groups were harder to ascertain.
"Anarchists by definition won't come and see us," he said.


damn, glad i'm not there, cause that would be such a difficult choice to make, do i go and stand in a police sanctioned penn, shout boo and wave placards around or do i go on a "anarchist rampage"? :rolleyes:
it seems the mett is doing a fine reqruitment campaign for our lot...

[RedArmyUK]

If your opinion differs in any way to mine your a wanker. Its an increadbly unfair and arrogant approach which will get me no where in life and im verry proud of it.


I like your style (must be a South East thing) :D