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diome
16th February 2009, 13:09
Hi!

I'm a leftist queer feminist from Finland. I guess my position on the leftist field is liberal. I often consider myself to be an anarchist, but have no connection to the anarchist movement.

It was nice to find this forum and I'm looking forward to some good discussion.:)

I've been supporting leftist values since a teenager, but at that time was more into nature conservation and such issues. I became more a leftist in my 20's after a disappointment in the green party (however I've never been a member of a political party).

In Finland there are lots of right-wingers in the greens, which I didn't fully realize at a younger age.

There are also many (mostly old aged) conservatives in the leftist party (Vasemmistoliitto), which makes it less appealing to someone like myself. Also the feminist wing of the leftist party seems very family values -oriented. I have nothing against families or children, it's just that the ideology seems often to collide with queer lives and other different lifestyles (which aren't even mentioned, or seen as abnormal and something people don't want to support).

The biggest "ogre" in the minds of liberal leftists currently is the Perussuomalaiset party. I don't know how it would situate in the axle of left-right, but they are very conservative and in many cases rascist. Promoting "home, fatherland and church" -values, and unfortunately gaining hugely in popularity.

CommieCat
16th February 2009, 14:42
Hi, welcome. :)

I Look forward to your input to the forum.

Potemkin
18th February 2009, 08:07
Hi there. It's good to see another anarchist sympathizer here. I'm from the US, where the Green Party has also become somewhat conservative lately. From your post it sounds like social ecology (http://www.revleft.com/vb/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=1280) might interest you.

Foreigner
21st February 2009, 02:39
I am new as well, but I thought I would note that I have had similar experience with the Greens here. For the brief time I attended meetings and got involved, there definitely was a deep divide between moderate centrist-liberal (i.e. relatively conservative) Greens, who saw themselves as the core of the party and were not really anticapitalist, and what they called the "watermelons" (into which category I fit) -- "green on the outside, red on the inside."

The Green Party, as far as I saw, is yet another attempt to make a moderate reformist loyal opposition party within a capitalist framework. I left it in disgust after the conservative faction attempted to bring in the state to resolve a procedural dispute between that faction and the radicals. And I'm pretty sure a couple of them were definitely provocateurs. It was a very discouraging first political experience.

Yeah, those "family values" nationalist movements are definitely right-wing and regressive, though, like fascism in all its variants, they draw upon working-class resentment and anti-exploitative themes (blaming some scapegoated group for the exploitation while expressing solidarity among the volk, genuine owning-class elites included with the most abject of squeezed workers...).

It definitely seems to be an international phenomenon, going on everywhere.

Anyway, hi! :lol:

diome
23rd February 2009, 13:14
Thanks for the welcomes!:) And the tip on checking social ecology.

I sometimes wonder what will come after this? Since there seem to be these certain international trends, like the popularity of conservatist and religious values. Family values too and all the right wing activity.

Where will we go? Will they continue cutting basic human liberties, like freedom of speech? And what will be the counter-reaction to that?

I've found it interesting that some people certainly seem to be expressing disappointment in capitalism in the current financial situation.

Brother No. 1
23rd February 2009, 14:45
Weclome to revleft comrade.:)
Hope you enjoy your stay here.

allpluto
25th February 2009, 02:19
hello

Communist Theory
25th February 2009, 02:40
Welcome, Comrade!
Use this tool of the revolution wisely!
Smash the State!

Greenman
25th February 2009, 22:31
Welcome to Rev Left from a member of the left green current in England and the Ecosocialist International Network.:)