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StrictlyRuddie
15th February 2009, 15:33
People like this youtube user(cant post links but look at his profile and only video)
Nationalbolschewist
Should they be considered fascists? Aside from reactionary nationalist beliefs and there fetish for "Glorious leaders" do they really want class war?
What can we/should we do about them? Convince them to drop the stalin-tard fetish and nationalism/ sexism? or just consider them traitors to the proletariat?
cccplikai
15th February 2009, 15:39
I can only say that Stalin with Hitler is not one category of persons ~:(
Revy
15th February 2009, 15:46
The National Bolshevik flag is actually the Nazi flag with the hammer and sickle instead of a swastika. Some of them are openly fascist, many are crypto-fascist.
Vendetta
15th February 2009, 15:52
or just consider them traitors to the proletariat?
I'd say this. That type of shit doesn't belong in revolutionary politics.
ComradeOm
15th February 2009, 17:39
Its arguable whether National Bolshevism (I assume you're talking about Limonov's part and not historic movements) has an ideological core that can be considered fascist... largely because their politics are so batshit insane that they defy easy categorisation. That said, there's no question that it has often, in the past at least, been aligned with Russia's far-right and its economic policy is corporatist. Officially it renounces anti-Semitism and racism but could easily be compared to Strasserism or Italian fascism
Nonetheless I haven't seen anything to suggest that the master-slave relationship lies at the heart of NazBol ideology (which does not mean that it is not, feel free to correct me) and to my mind the most obvious categorisation for them would be as an offshoot of the venerable Great Russian brand of ultra-nationalism. Their objectives are primarily geopolitical in scope (creating some bizarre pan-Eurasian empire to combat the evil Americans) and tend to revolve around a brash assertion of Russian nationalism. Which fits in with their admiration of Stalin
Needless to say they are not revolutionary, progressive, class-orientated, or even remotely compatible with communism
Melbourne Lefty
17th February 2009, 09:57
close to Strasserism I would think, just from looking at their methods and surface ideology.
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