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thinkerOFthoughts
14th February 2009, 19:20
We are studying values and how they are important and needed and want to know what two out of like 4 of these CORE values where essential? Respecting Authority and obeying Authority:cursing::laugh: ...... just wow.
mikelepore
14th February 2009, 20:32
Ask the teacher why he or she feels that it was wrong for slaves to escape from bondage and run away, and why it was wrong for the underground resistance in Germany to have disobeyed the laws of the Third Reich. When speaking to the teacher, word it as "you slavery supporters, and we who keep escaping" and "you who establish concentration camps, and we who oppose them." Then when the teacher says "what are you blaming me for?", say, "Do you deny that those resistance movements rebelled against authority?" Then when the teacher says, "Oh, but those were evil governments, and today we have good government", say: "Oh, so you mean we should obey authority if you agree with the policies that it has adopted, and we should rebel against authority if you disagree with its policies? Please give us a list of all public policies that you agree with, so we will know that we have been encouraged to violate all laws which aren't on your list."
Nils T.
14th February 2009, 20:33
And did you respect the authority of the teacher at that time ?
That's the second time this week that i read something like that about education in the USA, and i'm starting to think that in this aspect it is a better one that in europe, where this kind of things are left unsaid. And that's just more difficult to rebel against them. This teacher just offered you an occasion to present a contradictory opinion.
Kassad
14th February 2009, 20:34
Just say something like this. "Yes, teacher. I heard this same thing a while back in a video from the 1930's. I'm pretty sure it said the same thing, but I was having some trouble translating, since it was in German."
Rjevan
14th February 2009, 21:47
Yes, that's the right attitude. If you're on a plane and suddenly the Fuehrer walks towards you, points at the door and says "Jump!" it's out of question that you do anything else than shouting "Yes, my Fuehrer! Sieg Heil!" and jump. :rolleyes:
Bright Banana Beard
14th February 2009, 22:14
Tell your teacher authority is bad because they telling you what to do that may implant pain and headache to you.
Pogue
14th February 2009, 22:37
Huh? I thought respecting authority was what we're all about.
What about the famous anarchist slogan "FOR ALL AUTHORITY"?
On a serious note, thats the usual bourgeois agenda being forwarded. Ignore it, or better still challenge it.
Invincible Summer
14th February 2009, 23:55
Learning about values in school? Unless it's a philosophy class or sociology where you study sets of values or where they come from/how they develop, that is so damned subjective!
The Idler
15th February 2009, 15:24
Ask the teacher why he or she feels that it was wrong for slaves to escape from bondage and run away, and why it was wrong for the underground resistance in Germany to have disobeyed the laws of the Third Reich. When speaking to the teacher, word it as "you slavery supporters, and we who keep escaping" and "you who establish concentration camps, and we who oppose them." Then when the teacher says "what are you blaming me for?", say, "Do you deny that those resistance movements rebelled against authority?" Then when the teacher says, "Oh, but those were evil governments, and today we have good government", say: "Oh, so you mean we should obey authority if you agree with the policies that it has adopted, and we should rebel against authority if you disagree with its policies? Please give us a list of all public policies that you agree with, so we will know that we have been encouraged to violate all laws which aren't on your list."
Expect the teacher to say "well slavery and the Third Reich are a different kind of authority to the democracy governed United States" and come up with a good counter argument. Read An Anarchist FAQ section on authority (http://www.infoshop.org/faq/secB1.html). Remember that the teacher in a traditional school has a vested interest in defending the concept of authority.
NecroCommie
17th February 2009, 10:16
Uhh... Your teachers philosophical illiteracy makes me shudder.
eisidisirock
17th February 2009, 10:37
Yes, that's the right attitude. If you're on a plane and suddenly the Fuehrer walks towards you, points at the door and says "Jump!" it's out of question that you do anything else than shouting "Yes, my Fuehrer! Sieg Heil!" and jump. :rolleyes:
I'd pushed him out :)
Robespierre2.0
17th February 2009, 17:02
The point is not whether authority exists or not, but who wields it.
Nils T.
17th February 2009, 20:22
The point is not whether authority exists or not, but who wields it. Class nature of power. The authority is always wield by authority wielders.
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