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CommieCat
13th February 2009, 09:59
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Resist Scapegoating of Prostitution and Confront Real Problems: Global Capitalism, Patriarchy, Poverty, Exploitation and Violence

by Emi Koyama, Student Hookers Association

"Well, of course you can legislate morality!"
-- Fired Portland Police Chief Mark Kroeker, circa mid-1990s

What is the Prostitutes' Rights Movement?

Prostitutes' rights movement is a movement by prostitutes and our allies to improve and control the condition of our labor as well as our status within the society. It is an integral part of the greater feminist movement as well as the labor movement. Even though laws have been passed to protect other women from sexual assault, domestic violence, etc. and other workers from unfair labor practice, unsafe or hostile working environment, etc., we are still vulnerable in many ways. We demand, just like other women and workers have, that our rights to safety, dignity, and respect that all people deserve.


Do Women Choose to Become Prostitutes?

Like many other workers in a capitalist society, our options are limited by many factors, including poverty, sexism, racism, homophobia, etc. But to the degree many workers choose their occupation, many prostitutes do choose ours. To the degree many workers are forced into an occupation that they do not want to enter, many prostitutes are forced into prostitution. One of the goals of the prostitutes' rights movement is to empower everybody who works in the sex industry regardless of how we entered this field, creating many options for ourselves, both inside and outside of the industry.
Isn't Prostitution a form of Slavery?

"Prostitution" is a word that describes the type of work, like "manufacturing" or "farming." On the other hand, "slavery" describes the condition under which the work is performed and exploited regardless of the type of work involved. During the American Slavery, most slaves were forced to perform either farm work or domestic work, but it was not the type of work per se that was inhumane; rather, it was the condition under which their work was performed that was.

Even today, severely exploitative working conditions exist in many different fields. Two of the contemporary examples are offshore sweatshops ran by large U.S. corporations, and the U.S. farms where undocumented migrant workers work. But nobody is calling for the abolition of garment industry or agriculture altogether; instead, we are rightfully calling for the better, more humane and just treatment of all workers. Why should it be any different for the sex industry?


Isn't Prostitution Inherently Oppressive?

Not any more so than other lines of work in a global capitalist system. If prostitutes were more vulnerable to exploitation than other workers today, it is because we, like offshore sweatshop workers and migrant farmworkers, lack the institutional power to defend our rights as workers. To say that prostitution is "inherently" oppressive would absolve the wrongdoers of their responsibilities, and therefore is ultimately reactionary.
Aren't Many Women, Children, and Others being Hurt in Prostitution?

True, but not because we trade sex for money. As pointed out above, it is because we lack the institutional power to defend ourselves and our rights as workers. For example, the laws against profession can be used by police officers and abusive managers/pimps as a leverage to harass us and violate us. Our empowerment as workers and as women will make it more and more difficult for them to mistreat us. Unsafe working conditions and abusive management are labor issue.
What about People who have been Forced into Prostitution?

Our goal is to empower everybody who works in the sex industry regardless of how we entered the field. As the prostitutes' rights movement gains more recognition and grows more powerful, it will become harder and harder for pimps to coerce women to be in prostitution against their will because we will not tolerate that. It was the labor movement that forced the government to enact stricter child labor laws, occupational safety laws, eight hour work days, and many other protection mechanisms for all workers. Prostitutes' rights movement will achieve the same impact on ourselves and our fellow workers that the rest of the labor movement did on other workers.


Weren't Prostitutes Sexually Abused as Children?

Given the epidemic of child sexual abuse in the United States, it is no surprising that many prostitutes have been abused as children, just like many non-prostitutes have also been asbued. On the other hand, there are plenty of prostitutes as well as non-prostitutes who were not abused as children. We as the society need to move beyond stereotypes and take the epidemic of child sexual abuse seriously rather than using it as a tool to oppress a whole class of workers.
Isn't Sex Industry Inherently Sexist (or Oppressive to Women)?

Because we live in a Patriarchal society, virtually every industry is guilty of incorporating sexist elemtns to some degree. For example, in the medical field, doctors are disproportionately male while nurses are disproportionately female as a result of the pervasive institutional sexism. In the same sense, yes, sex industry reflects the society's sexist structures and attitudes. On the other hand, it is one of the few fields where women make at least as much as men if not more for the same work, and there is a lot of female companionship and rapport among female sex workers. Scapegoating the sex industry for its sexism will trivialize the farreaching impact of the Patriarchy that is present across the board.

But According to Statistics...

Most if not all statistics used by anti-prostitution activists are skewed due to their flawed methodologies. Because average or better off prostitutes rarely answer surveys or are mandated by court to attend programs, existing studies on prostitutes, especially those compiled by anti-prostitution activists, vastly overrepresent those who are indeed in particularly bad situations due to homelessness, mental illness, drug addiction, abusive pimps, or any combination thereof while underrepresenting more typical workers. Keep in mind that these issues are indeed real for some people, but before you accept these reports as experiences of a typical prostitute, question the source. Request a copy of their original research and assess its methodological validity.


Shouldn't Sexuality be Reserved for Romantic Relationships?

Everybody is entitled to her or his definition of sexuality, and there is nothing wrong with holding the view that sexuality and romance should go hand in hand. However, when a dominant group forces its version of sexual ideology on the marginalized group, it becomes a sexual oppression. A common example of this is homophobia. It is no wonder that gay, lesbian, bisexual and trans people have historically been persecuted in so-called "vice sweeps" along with prostitutes, or that lesbians and female sex workers were lumped together as "sinful women" and put in concentration camps during the Nazi era, once we realize that the oppression against sex workers is tightly linked to the oppression against other sexual minorities. It should be selfevident which side progressive activists should stand on.

SEX WORKERS' RIGHTS ARE WORKERS' RIGHTS.
ANTI-PROSTITUTION ACTIVISTS' COLLUSION
WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OPPRESSES WOMEN.

jake williams
13th February 2009, 10:07
I would agree, with some reservations that sex work is probably in general a bit analytically different than other professions, both with regard to capitalism and with regard to patriarchy. Still, good stuff.

CommieCat
13th February 2009, 10:23
Emi has been involved in activism against anti-prostitution laws in Portland and argued against the radical anti-prostitution views of some feminists in favor of a pro-working class view. Her articles make a lot of sense, I'd post some of her zines, but I'm not allowed yet :/

Schrödinger's Cat
13th February 2009, 19:49
I concur with this article's conclusion.

apathy maybe
13th February 2009, 20:23
I would agree, with some reservations that sex work is probably in general a bit analytically different than other professions, both with regard to capitalism and with regard to patriarchy. Still, good stuff.

How is it different from, say, hairdressing, with regard to capitalism? Or, even massaging? (See also http://www.sexwork.com/coalition/publicbrochure.html for an examination of how non-sexual massager are treated rough by the filth.)

jake williams
14th February 2009, 04:00
How is it different from, say, hairdressing, with regard to capitalism? Or, even massaging? (See also http://www.sexwork.com/coalition/publicbrochure.html for an examination of how non-sexual massager are treated rough by the filth.)
Well it's not simple, first. And second, I just haven't spent a lot of time intellectually on the topic. But I think it's probably fair to say some basic things like sex labour is an especially personal thing to sell, and of course we have to look at the gendering of labour as a specific type of intersection between patriarchy and capitalism.

CommieCat
14th February 2009, 05:57
Right. It's not simple, and that's what I think the point of this is.

Sure, some people /are/ in the most extreme cases coerced into prostitution. On the other hand, some freely (as much as one can 'freely' take a job in capitalism!) choose to prostitute. However, I think such arguments about choice (or lack of) tends to ignore the real issues facing prostitutes, both those whom have 'freely' taken it as a job and those who have been coerced into doing so. The 'choice' debate resolves itself into one which contends to justify or condemn sex work. But that's irrelevant, since sex work /is/ going to be there regardless of whether some feminists condemn it or not. Trying to depict the sex is the problem totally ignores that it isn't sex, its work. And that the trade of sex isn't the problem, but things which affect all workers; racism, sexism, lack of rights, exploitation etc.

That's not to mention that those whom most frequently put forth the 'its their choice!' argument really just don't understand the dynamics & oppressiveness of capitalism which REQUIRES people to sell their labor. Would communists say that because migrant workers choose to work minimum wage, long hours in construction that therefore its all 'okay'?! But nor should we say the opposite and depict sex workers as people who have absolutely no agency or any independent thought and have been made unwilling slaves of.

Nor do I think that simple slogans that prostitution is 'empowering' are correct (or false). Generally, it depends on the individual worker and their reasons for doing whatever it is they do. Really, whether someone finds their job 'empowering' (or not) isn't really relevant to the day-to-day issues sex workers face. I'm sure for many sex workers out there, being a prostitute is far from empowering and is an abusive job. And I'm sure there are contrary examples likewise.

This doesn't necessarily mean more restrictions & laws on prostitution. Some ordinances introduced by certain administrations have ultimately been about putting the balance of power in favor of business owners (e.g putting restrictions on prostitutes working for themselves, requiring criminal background checks for prostitutes, requiring police reporting, requiring recording client details etc etc). And I think that people tend to ignore that class struggle exists in cases of decriminalization of prostitution, and that simply decriminalizing it doesn't inherently mean that all the problems workers face in that trade disappear, anymore than any other job.

Ultimately, its a workers problems, and requires a workers solution.

Yehuda Stern
14th February 2009, 11:29
I think that the assertion by the writers that their profession is no different than any other proletarian job is a measure of how much they have internalized their own oppression - the fact that they see selling their own bodies as being no different than a worker selling his labor power. Such a view could only be adopted in a chauvinist, sexist society.

Otherwise, I agree with the call for rights for prostitutes and that they shouldn't be criminalized or persecuted. However, I do think prostitution is a negative phenomenon, which a workers government would probably try to curb.

Rangi
14th February 2009, 12:03
You can demand a lot of things from people but there is one thing that you can't demand and that is respect.

Module
14th February 2009, 13:05
You can demand a lot of things from people but there is one thing that you can't demand and that is respect.
So, what's your point?

Yazman
14th February 2009, 13:31
So, what's your point?

I would interpret the point as being that, most people do not see prostitution as something likely to earn people's respect. It can be described from many points of view as a negative phenomenon associated with crime and the economic roots of such; I feel that most people know this on a basic level and so are not likely to respect prostitutes. Therefore any movement to earn respect for prostitutes, especially in the framework of capitalism, would likely be an incredibly difficult and long struggle.

apathy maybe
14th February 2009, 13:42
I think that the assertion by the writers that their profession is no different than any other proletarian job is a measure of how much they have internalized their own oppression - the fact that they see selling their own bodies as being no different than a worker selling his labor power. Such a view could only be adopted in a chauvinist, sexist society

This argument comes up when ever we talk about porn too. Porn is bad, because women are exploited.

It ignores the fact that men rent out their bodies for sex too. It ignores that women buy the services of people for sex. Etc.


OK, but more to the point, prostitutes aren't selling their bodies. They are hiring them out for a night (or a few hours, whatever). They are, as I said above, like hairdressers or masseurs. They sell a service for a time, they don't sell their body, because they continue to have control over their body at the end of the time.


Otherwise, I agree with the call for rights for prostitutes and that they shouldn't be criminalized or persecuted. However, I do think prostitution is a negative phenomenon, which a workers government would probably try to curb.
How would a "workers government" (a contradiction in terms from where I'm standing) curb a victimless crime? Punish the people who sell sex? Punish the people who buy sex? No one is being hurt by the fact of prostitution.

It is coercion, sexism, etc. that are problems, not the selling of sex. You don't crack down on the symptom, you attack the root cause of the problem.


You can demand a lot of things from people but there is one thing that you can't demand and that is respect.
We are all prostitutes. You don't deserve any more respect than anyone else, because you are selling yourself in the same way as everyone else.

The fact that sex is perceived as shameful is your problem, and you deserve less respect if you see sex as shameful. Fuck off.

Yazman
14th February 2009, 13:51
The fact that sex is perceived as shameful is your problem, and you deserve less respect if you see sex as shameful. Fuck off.

That is YOUR assertion, not his. In fact you're the first person in this topic to make the suggestion that sex is shameful, which it certainly is not. If you're going to argue against somebody's statements you should really make sure that you're actually arguing against their statements and not something you want them to say.


It ignores the fact that men rent out their bodies for sex too. It ignores that women buy the services of people for sex. Etc.

Male prostitutes are often even more disrespected than female ones. This could be due to the combination of disrespect for prostitution in general with how common homophobia is; most male prostitutes service gay men.

Yehuda Stern
15th February 2009, 20:36
It ignores the fact that men rent out their bodies for sex too. It ignores that women buy the services of people for sex. Etc.

It's not the same. The terms of oppression for men and women are completely different, and I suppose it's no news to anyone that men have an edge here.



OK, but more to the point, prostitutes aren't selling their bodies. They are hiring them out for a night (or a few hours, whatever).

Whatever; in the same way, one could argue that workers aren't selling but renting their labor power. It's a semantic question.


How would a "workers government" (a contradiction in terms from where I'm standing) curb a victimless crime? Punish the people who sell sex? Punish the people who buy sex? No one is being hurt by the fact of prostitution.

That's a dishonest interpretation of what I was saying - that I am against criminalization of prostitutes. The way to fight the phenomenon, which I do not think is victimless at all (and I think only a clueless person with a romanticized vision of prostitution can say that - the victims are the prostitutes themselves) is by fighting the root cause of it - poverty.

Joe Hill's Ghost
16th February 2009, 11:33
I think that the assertion by the writers that their profession is no different than any other proletarian job is a measure of how much they have internalized their own oppression - the fact that they see selling their own bodies as being no different than a worker selling his labor power. Such a view could only be adopted in a chauvinist, sexist society.

Otherwise, I agree with the call for rights for prostitutes and that they shouldn't be criminalized or persecuted. However, I do think prostitution is a negative phenomenon, which a workers government would probably try to curb.

Huh? If capitalism is abolished wouldn't there be no need for this? The need to have sex for money will have disappeared and thus, the material basis for prostitution will have disappeared.

That said I don't think its your place to talk of their "internalized oppressions" methinks that's their prerogative to determine whether or not they feel more oppressed as sex workers. There are plenty of other, non sex industry jobs that are often just as dehumanizing and destructive if not worse.

Yehuda Stern
16th February 2009, 13:02
But under a workers' state, capitalism and scarcity are not completely abolished yet. On the contrary, it's pretty certain that there will be a period where living standards will actually decline.


That said I don't think its your place to talk of their "internalized oppressions" methinks that's their prerogative to determine whether or not they feel more oppressed as sex workers.

Nonsense. Part of being oppressed is feeling that you have no legitimacy to complain about being oppressed, or that you are oppressed at all. Many Israeli Palestinians believe, or used to at least, that they deserve lesser conditions at work because they are not Jews. Does that mean that I have no right to talk about their oppression?

Rangi
16th February 2009, 13:28
All I said was that you can't demand respect and Apathy Maybe calls me a prostitute and tells me to fuck off. Charming. By calling me a prostitute aren't you denigrating prostitutes by using their namesake as a derogatory remark?

I'm not against prostitution by any means. I was merely pointing out that people who hire out their orifices to other people for money might find it hard to gain the respect of the wider community.

I think if someone really wants to do such things then that's just fine with me. I'm sure everyone here would be completely fine with seeing one of their close friends or relations prostituting themselves. You could yell out "Power sister!" as you pass them in your car.

Bitter Ashes
16th February 2009, 13:35
Are there any sort of statistics out there for how many women involved in the sex trade are actualy happy with thier job? I just find it hard to accept that anybody would put themselves through this without a very forceful push. I may be wrong, hence my question :huh:

Jazzratt
16th February 2009, 14:55
All I said was that you can't demand respect and Apathy Maybe calls me a prostitute and tells me to fuck off. Charming. By calling me a prostitute aren't you denigrating prostitutes by using their namesake as a derogatory remark?

Oh come on! He said "We are all prostitutes" this isn't a derogatory remark, this is a statement of fact. You and I may never have been paid to sexually service anyone but I would wager that we both have been forced to rent out our bodies (i.e sell our labour power) in order to get money. The difference between a worker and a sex worker only exists if you have a reactionary, puritanical and romanticised view of sex. Which is why, I suspect, apathy maybe told you to fuck off.


I'm not against prostitution by any means. I was merely pointing out that people who hire out their orifices to other people for money might find it hard to gain the respect of the wider community.

Which is something we have to fight.


I think if someone really wants to do such things then that's just fine with me. I'm sure everyone here would be completely fine with seeing one of their close friends or relations prostituting themselves. You could yell out "Power sister!" as you pass them in your car.

Do you shout "power sister" when you see a friend of yours going to some miserable dead end McJob? Do you view taking a menial labour job as something someone does because they really want to? Do you ever think about whether you would be completely fine seeing your close friends or relations working day in, day out at a factory?

If you don't do that with any other job, why expect us to consider those things with sex workers?

Elect Marx
26th February 2009, 09:23
This is an interesting thread. I have to admit that I haven't confronted my views on prostitution in a long time. It would seem that this is another case of something civilized people wouldn't do. As if we can be so self-righteous as to say what we would not do to survive.

To me, this issues is similar to drug dealers out there hustling for their dollar. Why is the system punishing people for being reduced to a means of survival that I can only suspect no one would willingly choose? I will have to agree that once again people without any voice in society are being scapegoated.

I don't see any place for prostitution in a classless society, just as I don't see a place for dealing drugs or being a wage slave. We are all selling our labor to survive in this system.

Could there be a place in society for sexual instruction, various practices and disciplines? I would say so, but everything is different when you remove a capital nexus that reduces people to commodities.

synthesis
7th March 2009, 13:45
How is it different from, say, hairdressing, with regard to capitalism?

Someone remind me... How many hairdressers are at risk of dying from a disease they contracted as a result of their line of work, again?

I mean, even if prostitution becomes completely legal, prostitutes would still be at higher risk of sexual assault than any other occupation

I'm really getting sick of this "all oppression is equal" bullshit. The majority of prostitutes today would not be prostitutes if they grew up in a better environment, and that's not something I feel the need to quantify with a PDF full of bullshit statistics.