Do you ever get the feeling...?

[Dr.Claw]

Do you ever get the feeling that the there is more than one government working together to run the world, such as the U.S. Government being tied up with another government, that the people don't know about or that the media doesn't show us or its such a big secret that media doesn't even think about it. I don't know maybe I'm just being paranoid, but i just think that there is another kind of "world government" that we don't see and that this whole thing is really larger than it seems.

[Pogue]

Do you ever get the feeling that the there is more than one government working together to run the world, such as the U.S. Government being tied up with another government, that the people don't know about or that the media doesn't show us or its such a big secret that media doesn't even think about it. I don't know maybe I'm just being paranoid, but i just think that there is another kind of "world government" that we don't see and that this whole thing is really larger than it seems.

Sometimes, but I think its a bit far-fetched, and I resort back to realising the 'world government' is in fact the worldwide bourgeois class, who needs to be abolished, and manifest themselves in countries all aorund the world.

You see your world government in the bourgeois organisaitons such as the WTO, UN, etc.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

No. That kind of thinking adds to the ilusion that the bourgeoisie is some undefetable giant who is able to set up a new world order that secretly runs the world.

In real life they cannot cover up losing data on a laptop on a train.

[Ben Chaser]

Hell yes I get that feeling. Often it's dismissed as "conspiracy theory" as if the ruling elite doesn't talk to each other. Why does the US have military bases in most countries? Why do poor countries have to get themselves in debt to the world bank or the imf to provide for their people? The Ron Paulistas and the folks behind Zeitgeist have been spreading alot of decent information about these issues, even though many of the conclusions they come to are fucked. That's the problem with a lot of conspiriologists...they like to attribute our present state of affairs to some overarching secret society like the Illuminati or reptilian humanoids from the dog star Sirius...but still there's plenty of information out there that makes sense. You've seen the internet, haven't you? 2012 was an inside job!

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

2012 was an inside job!

Oh for fucks sake.

[Pogue]

Am I the only one who finds it funny that two new posters both have spontaneously decided to talk about the NWO at the same time?

Its almost as if this happened before. Oh wait, anyone remember that time...

[Dean]

Do you ever get the feeling that the there is more than one government working together to run the world, such as the U.S. Government being tied up with another government, that the people don't know about or that the media doesn't show us or its such a big secret that media doesn't even think about it. I don't know maybe I'm just being paranoid, but i just think that there is another kind of "world government" that we don't see and that this whole thing is really larger than it seems.

IBM and ITT, Union Carbide and Exxon.

[Dr.Claw]

Ok, maybe the idea is just a little far fetched , but do u think that if the shit were to hit the fan here and people in the U.S. actually stared a wide scale rebellion do u think the U.S. wouldn't call for back up from their allies.

[Dr.Claw]

by the way im not tlking about the NWO thats just story book crap

[Pogue]

The internaitonal bourgeoisie would unite and try to destroy us a revolution, yes.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

The internaitonal bourgeoisie would unite and try to destroy us a revolution, yes.

Well not in the early days i dont think we would see them all unite. For instance I think countries such as Iran who would not be awake to the dangers of proletariat revolution would give us free shit (such as guns) as in the (Very?) short term a successful proletariat revolution in say the UK would benefit the Irainain ruling class in that it would halt any British meddling in the region.

I suspect there would be some bourgeoisies of the country the revolution is in would jump sides either for some ethical reason they might have or much more likely they dont want to flee nor to they want to end up hanging from a tree.

[Red Apex]

I get the feeling, but I'm pretty sure most of it is bs. But still even if all of our governments arn't connected they still want us gone regardless.

[Yazman]

Yeah I do get the feeling and I think that there is a lot of co-ordination and collaboration between corporations and governments, but its informal and doesn't always work the way they intended.

[Coggeh]

No. That kind of thinking adds to the ilusion that the bourgeoisie is some undefetable giant who is able to set up a new world order that secretly runs the world.

In real life they cannot cover up losing data on a laptop on a train.
Exactly:lol:

[MMIKEYJ]

Do you ever get the feeling that the there is more than one government working together to run the world, such as the U.S. Government being tied up with another government, that the people don't know about or that the media doesn't show us or its such a big secret that media doesn't even think about it. I don't know maybe I'm just being paranoid, but i just think that there is another kind of "world government" that we don't see and that this whole thing is really larger than it seems.

Absolutely... Those are the globalists.

Look, we can have a real in-depth discussion on this if you want.

I mentioned 'globalists' one other time on another thread and one user freaked that I was some libertoon with opposing ideologies and I got restricted.

The way I look at this is its on going.. its being done in parallel.. and there are plenty examples which we can cite where US policy and law has taken direction from a higher power - and I dont mean a divine one.

[MMIKEYJ]

Hell yes I get that feeling. Often it's dismissed as "conspiracy theory" as if the ruling elite doesn't talk to each other. Why does the US have military bases in most countries? Why do poor countries have to get themselves in debt to the world bank or the imf to provide for their people? The Ron Paulistas and the folks behind Zeitgeist have been spreading alot of decent information about these issues, even though many of the conclusions they come to are fucked. That's the problem with a lot of conspiriologists...they like to attribute our present state of affairs to some overarching secret society like the Illuminati or reptilian humanoids from the dog star Sirius...but still there's plenty of information out there that makes sense. You've seen the internet, haven't you? 2012 was an inside job!
I think you've gone a little overboard there equating Ron Paulistas with nutjobs.

Now that you mention it though, Ive never heard of reptilian humanoids from Sirius - just amphibians. ;)

Heres a picture of Oannes
http://oannes.home.mindspring.com/Oannes.jpg
But I read about this 20 years ago.. way before I ever heard about Ron Paul.

[MMIKEYJ]

Am I the only one who finds it funny that two new posters both have spontaneously decided to talk about the NWO at the same time?

Its almost as if this happened before. Oh wait, anyone remember that time...
Oh fuck. I thought this guy was an established member.. I hope he isnt any troll, otherwise my posts have been a waste of time.

[Ben Chaser]

I don't think anyone is wasting their time in this thread. Most everyone I know, leftists included has a "Dismiss" button in their brain which they press whenever conspiracies are mentioned, because conspiracies are for crazy people. I can't really refute this assertion because I am crazy myself, but I think often crazy people are in touch with truths that other people ignore or are unaware of. Fact is people have been studying conspiracies for a long time, and the evidence that, as Ishmael Reed has stated, 'the history of the world is the history of the wars between secret societies" is extensive and we don't have to resort to blaming the Jews or any one group. What's often missing in conspiracy research is good old fashioned anti-capitalism. Capitalism is the means of control for whoever it is you think is in control. That's why I choose to focus on smashing capitalism instead of finding the Bohemian Grove with David Icke and blowing it up. So let me say something I hope we can all agree on...there is a menace out there, a group of powerful men who want to take over the world and subject us to tyranny...these people are called...capitalists.

[eisidisirock]

Oh for fucks sake.
:lol:

I fuck reptiles and i work with the nazis and usa on 911 to leave the planet before 2012.

[MMIKEYJ]

I don't think anyone is wasting their time in this thread. Most everyone I know, leftists included has a "Dismiss" button in their brain which they press whenever conspiracies are mentioned, because conspiracies are for crazy people. I can't really refute this assertion because I am crazy myself, but I think often crazy people are in touch with truths that other people ignore or are unaware of. Fact is people have been studying conspiracies for a long time, and the evidence that, as Ishmael Reed has stated, 'the history of the world is the history of the wars between secret societies" is extensive and we don't have to resort to blaming the Jews or any one group. What's often missing in conspiracy research is good old fashioned anti-capitalism. Capitalism is the means of control for whoever it is you think is in control. That's why I choose to focus on smashing capitalism instead of finding the Bohemian Grove with David Icke and blowing it up. So let me say something I hope we can all agree on...there is a menace out there, a group of powerful men who want to take over the world and subject us to tyranny...these people are called...capitalists.
Conspiracies arent for crazy people. Its Praxeology.

If a contractor gets a local govt contract in your town to make sidewalks that costs 10X the market price, then it is not much of a stretch to understand that somebody within the local government is benefitting from the transaction - at the expense of the rest of the town.

Its common sense, because there has to be a reason that somebody is going to authorize this huge markup in expenditures. Theyre not going to simply give away money unless they are going to receive something in return.

And extrapolated, this happens in county, state, and federal government as well. $600 for a hammer, etc.. of course SOMEBODY is making out and its not the people or the country.

The capitalists you speak about who run the elite cabal.. I dont know which group nor do I care, but I have no doubt that they are financed thru private central banking. By controlling and profiting off the issuance of the currencies of the nations. Thats why I focus on that.. I look at that as the primary evil. And it is a system which propagates wars and poverty and the general malaise of the people.

[scarletghoul]

I don't get the feeling.

World leaders are all affiliated though, obviously, and there is a global ruling class, which must be overthrown. But thats it

[kiki75]

So, the governments tell you they're working together for their own interests and you don't believe it?

All you gotta do is read and pay attention.

[Circle E Society]

Yeah then lets talk about whether or not Biggie and Tupac are still alive or not as well.:laugh:

[Invincible Summer]

Reptilian-Nephilim-Moleman conspiracy!



Seriously though, H-L-V-S said it best:

Sometimes, but I think its a bit far-fetched, and I resort back to realising the 'world government' is in fact the worldwide bourgeois class, who needs to be abolished, and manifest themselves in countries all aorund the world.

You see your world government in the bourgeois organisaitons such as the WTO, UN, etc.