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ev
3rd February 2009, 00:37
How big are communes (geographically) are they just town and cities or a region of lets say 100x100km2? What determines the geographic size of a commune?
swirling_vortex
3rd February 2009, 01:42
Since it's an ideology, it doesn't really have a size. It's as big or small as you want it to be. Of course, that also depends on your definition of a commune as well.
which doctor
3rd February 2009, 02:12
There's no set definition. It varies depending on the jurisdiction.
Invincible Summer
3rd February 2009, 05:14
Since it's an ideology, it doesn't really have a size..
A commune is not an ideology. Communism is, but a commune is a place.
Anyways, I think the OP's question is sort of silly.
What defines a city? There's no specific geographic measurement to define what a city is. Same goes with a commune.
Of course, if you're using "commune" as a synonym for "worker's collective" or "syndicate" then it has to be large enough to have means of production in some form.
ev
3rd February 2009, 10:22
A commune is not an ideology. Communism is, but a commune is a place.
Correct.
Anyways, I think the OP's question is sort of silly.
No. It is a legitimate question.
What defines a city? There's no specific geographic measurement to define what a city is. Same goes with a commune.
No.
Of course, if you're using "commune" as a synonym for "worker's collective" or "syndicate" then it has to be large enough to have means of production in some form.
Half right.
el_chavista
3rd February 2009, 12:46
I think that mutual social-economic-politic interests of the commoners define the area of the commune. It may be a ville with a huge surrounding country area of influence, or a "barrio" (quarter) in a city.
Black Sheep
4th February 2009, 08:40
Αs destruction500 mentioned,it could be arbirtarily declared according to its characteristics.Population, production/farming units, etc
btw OP answering with yes/no etc isnt helpful to anyone.
Post-Something
5th February 2009, 00:56
1000-25000 people usually.
EDIT: Sorry, I never realised you said geographically. My apologies.
MarxSchmarx
5th February 2009, 05:21
Well it depends on the time and place but here are some relevant points from Wikipedia on the matter:
The largest commune of the French Republic is Maripasoula (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maripasoula) (3,710 inhabitants) in the département of French Guiana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Guiana): 18,360 km² (7,089 sq. miles).
In metropolitan France (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_France) the largest commune is the commune of Arles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arles) (50,513 inhabitants) near Marseilles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marseilles), the territory of which encompasses most of the Camargue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camargue) (the delta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_delta) of the Rhône River (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rh%C3%B4ne_River)): 759 km² (293 sq. miles), or 8.7 times the area of the city of Paris (excluding the outlying parks of Bois de Boulogne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bois_de_Boulogne) and Bois de Vincennes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bois_de_Vincennes)).
The smallest commune of the French Republic is Castelmoron-d'Albret (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castelmoron-d%27Albret) (62 inhabitants) near Bordeaux (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bordeaux): 0.0376 km² (0.0145 sq. miles or 9.3 acres).
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Apparently there is also something like 90,000,000 acres of arable land under the control of 56,000 communes in China so you can do the averaging.
Finally, for some bizarre reason :P, municipal communities in Italy are known as "Comunis" which translates into communes. I don't know what the largest area wise is, but I imagine it's not too hard to find out.
HTH.
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