View Full Version : What are you?
Gustav
2nd February 2009, 11:57
Hey, dunno if this have been done before.. It prolly have :), but i'll make the thread anyway.
Where are you politically?, are you an anarchist, communist, socialist or anarcho-communist and so on.
I'm a communist.
Bilan
2nd February 2009, 12:18
Marxian Syndicalist.:cool:
Rangi
2nd February 2009, 12:21
Don't like to put myself in boxes.
JohnnyC
2nd February 2009, 12:22
I think there is already a thread about it.
http://www.revleft.com/vb/would-you-describe-t99721/index.html
skki
2nd February 2009, 12:38
Libertarian Communist. Easier to just post my political graph.
http://i41.tinypic.com/nn6uqu.png
ZeroNowhere
2nd February 2009, 12:42
Libertarian Communist. Easier to just post my political graph.
http://i41.tinypic.com/nn6uqu.png
Eh, the political compass is silly. A dedicated reformist would be to the left of us commies, as the quiz is completely capitalism-centric.
Also, De Leonist.
revolution inaction
2nd February 2009, 13:26
Eh, the political compass is silly. A dedicated reformist would be to the left of us commies, as the quiz is completely capitalism-centric.
Also, De Leonist.
Yes when I first found it it was interesting, but the more I leant about politics the more i found the questions to be false choices, and full of assumptions i don't accept.
Raúl Duke
2nd February 2009, 13:52
A Anarcho-Communist with Marxian influences and some sympathy/interest for/on Left-Communism and Technocracy.
Kassad
2nd February 2009, 14:51
Marxist-Leninist with some sympathies to Maoism and Hoxhaism, despite many disagreements.
#FF0000
2nd February 2009, 14:57
Anarchist.
Lots of sympathies for Left-Communism, and I like Marxism a lot.
Panda Tse Tung
2nd February 2009, 16:29
MLM
But if we're compassing:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-9.88&soc=-4.31
Economic Left/Right: -9.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31
alhop10
2nd February 2009, 16:38
What is a marxian-syndicalist? The politcal compass thing always reminds me of that scene from Dead Poets Society where they plot the worthiness of a poem on a graph. Really, what is the point?
Woland
2nd February 2009, 16:41
Of course it means nothing. But atleast I get some bragging rights for answering the questions correctly? :laugh:
Marxist-Leninist (anti-revisionist) here.
Invincible Summer
3rd February 2009, 01:00
Anarchist with De Leonist and Marxist sympathies.
swirling_vortex
3rd February 2009, 01:35
Market Socialism & Council Communism.
Vahanian
3rd February 2009, 01:45
Anarchist with Marxist sympathies
Charles Xavier
3rd February 2009, 02:02
A Marxist-Leninist communist.
Comrade B
3rd February 2009, 02:06
Communist with Trotskyist leanings.
Bilan
3rd February 2009, 02:18
What is a marxian-syndicalist? The politcal compass thing always reminds me of that scene from Dead Poets Society where they plot the worthiness of a poem on a graph. Really, what is the point?
Marxist analysis and theory, syndicalist practice. There's a few others on the board with similar politics.
RedScare
3rd February 2009, 02:24
Communist with Trotskyist leanings.
griffjam
3rd February 2009, 02:28
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autotrophic
3rd February 2009, 02:41
anarchist without adjectives. As long as there is no exploitation or oppression, the way the economy is organized matters little to me:rolleyes:
Zeus the Moose
3rd February 2009, 03:32
Revolutionary Marxist, heretical Leninist, unorthodox Trotskyist.
Also, Moh Kohn-ist.
SocialRealist
3rd February 2009, 03:51
As of now, I am a Luxemburgist.
Circle E Society
3rd February 2009, 03:54
Anarchist, sympathies towards mainly toward collectivism and syndicalism, Marxism as well.
genstrike
3rd February 2009, 04:50
Well, I don't really like to put myself into little boxes like that (especially when the boxes are so tiny.. I mean, what is the difference between, say, a Maoist and a Hoxhaist and how does that relate to everyday life?), although partially because I sometimes feel I haven't read enough big heavy books written by dead white guys to know for sure.
But if I had to put a label on myself (ie: what my facebook political views field says), I would go for Anarcho-Syndicalist.
Although my Trot friends call me an Anarcho-Stalinist because I subscribe to the People's Voice (Communist Party paper)... and like to make ice axe jokes in their presence...
bootleg42
3rd February 2009, 05:22
I'm a nothing-ist.
I just want to give the people what they want. That's the best advance for real socialism. No complicated theories or labels that don't do any good.
Zeus the Moose
3rd February 2009, 05:44
I'm a nothing-ist.
I just want to give the people what they want. That's the best advance for real socialism. No complicated theories or labels that don't do any good.
Ve believes in notzing, Lebowski!
StalinFanboy
3rd February 2009, 05:51
Bourgeois White kid with too much money and spare time.
Actually, I'm a Post-Left/Insurrectionary Anarchist.
Sasha
3rd February 2009, 16:55
autonomist with anarchist (freedom), syndicalist (organisation) and marxist (economics) influences
Pogue
3rd February 2009, 17:02
Autonomist/Anarcho Syndicalist, a sort of cross between the two.
LeninBalls
3rd February 2009, 17:43
Communist (Marxist-Leninist) in "training" like the title says. I'm still learning about the more complex side of Communism until I can say I'm a Marxist-Leninist.
BIG BROTHER
3rd February 2009, 18:20
Marxist, who sees Leninism as the best application of Marxism, and sees Trotskysm as the natural continuation of Leninism.
Hoggy_RS
3rd February 2009, 18:56
Communist and Irish Republican
black magick hustla
3rd February 2009, 19:53
internationalist communist
Charles Xavier
3rd February 2009, 19:56
I have the ultra-left infantile disorder
Corrected.
Pogue
3rd February 2009, 19:57
Corrected.
Don't you ever wonder why you have such a bad reputation on this forum?
Sasha
3rd February 2009, 19:59
A stalinist idiot who blows his load when he thinks about brutal opression, personality cults and purges
two can play that childish game
Wanted Man
3rd February 2009, 20:11
What is a marxian-syndicalist? The politcal compass thing always reminds me of that scene from Dead Poets Society where they plot the worthiness of a poem on a graph. Really, what is the point?
I agree. Dr. J. Evans Pritchard, Ph.D. :rolleyes: Good film, by the way.
I'm a marxist-leninist.
Incendiarism
3rd February 2009, 20:19
I'm a communist.
Comrade Anarchist
3rd February 2009, 20:34
Anarcho-communist
Sasha
3rd February 2009, 20:36
Anarcho-communist
then why do you have an reformist social democratic symbol as an avatar?
Pogue
3rd February 2009, 20:38
then why do you have an reformist social democratic symbol as an avatar?
cos conformity is for cappies
Comrade Anarchist
3rd February 2009, 20:57
then why do you have an reformist social democratic symbol as an avatar?
Because i believe that the only way to achieve the communes of an anarcho-communist society is for there to be socialism across a larger scale then to be cut in communes.
wickedrevolution
3rd February 2009, 21:05
Communist (Marxist-Leninist) in "training"
Marxist-Leninist in training also.
Pogue
3rd February 2009, 21:06
Because i believe that the only way to achieve the communes of an anarcho-communist society is for there to be socialism across a larger scale then to be cut in communes.
What? Please explain.
Madvillainy
3rd February 2009, 21:24
Anarcho-Communist and a platformist. :D
Comrade Anarchist
3rd February 2009, 21:36
What? Please explain.
the whole idea of anarcho-communism is for people to live in communes and to own all forms of production within thier commune. I believe in order to achieve the communes we must control the state as it is through socialism.
Leo
3rd February 2009, 21:39
Internationalist communist, which is also known as left-communist.
StalinFanboy
3rd February 2009, 21:53
the whole idea of anarcho-communism is for people to live in communes and to own all forms of production within thier commune. I believe in order to achieve the communes we must control the state as it is through socialism.
That's not anarchism, bro.
Dragonsign
3rd February 2009, 21:57
Libertarian communism
Pogue
3rd February 2009, 22:03
the whole idea of anarcho-communism is for people to live in communes and to own all forms of production within thier commune. I believe in order to achieve the communes we must control the state as it is through socialism.
That makes no sense and is in no way anarchism. You can't believe that and also be an anarchist.
JimmyJazz
3rd February 2009, 22:12
Market Socialism & Council Communism.
Damn. I didn't expect someone to give my exact answer before me.
This.
As I wrote on a non-leftist discussion board:
(1) Central planning of production via trial and error price-setting (central planners should be accountable to the electorate through political means, ideally through the power of immediate recall; also they should be accountable through normal market mechanisms, to people as consumers, rather than simply setting production quotas),
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lange_Model
(2) Public ownership of all capital (i.e. no profits, and all people are paid the full value of their physical and/or mental labor as determined by the market prices of the things they produce--because I have yet to hear any more accurate way of calculating the value of labor),[/URL]
(3) Control* of the workplace (whether factory or office) by the people who work there, either in direct ways (a direct vote) or through delegates/representatives of union organizations in the government [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Assembly_of_People%27s_Power#Elections"]as in Cuba's National Assembly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative), or some combination of both.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers'_control (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers%27_control)
Related to (3):
Venezuela's Cooperative Revolution (http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2006/0706bowmanstone.html)
Venezuelans More Satisfied Than Other Latin Americans (http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news/4016)
*of major things, like length of the working day/week; so please save any objections along the lines of "you'd have to vote on what color pens to use!!1 lolz"
Comrade Anarchist
3rd February 2009, 22:58
That's not anarchism, bro.
i know its anarcho-communism
StalinFanboy
3rd February 2009, 23:06
i know its anarcho-communism
No.
Invincible Summer
4th February 2009, 00:59
the whole idea of anarcho-communism is for people to live in communes and to own all forms of production within thier commune. I believe in order to achieve the communes we must control the state as it is through socialism.
You're very confused, aren't you? You have a quote from Lenin in your signature, Marx in your username, the social democrat flower in your avatar, and your tag reads "Anarcho-communist" when you clearly are in favour of the state.
I mean, I understand some people are against labels, but if you're gonna call yourself something, at least promote the basic tenets of it, lest you want to lead people astray.
Who.... are you?!
Brother No. 1
4th February 2009, 01:42
Communist Marxist-Leninist-Maoist.
skki
4th February 2009, 01:48
i know its anarcho-communism
oh lol
griffjam
4th February 2009, 02:11
An Insurrectionary Libertarian Socialist of the Anarcho-Communist variety, anti-platformist.
Political Compass:
Economic Left (-8.75)
Social Libertarian (-9.90 )
Moral Matrix:
-7.5 on Moral Order
6 on Moral Rules
hugsandmarxism
4th February 2009, 02:26
I'm some kind of Communist... but I haven't read enough to tell you which way I lean :blushing:
#FF0000
4th February 2009, 17:34
i know its anarcho-communism
No it isn't. It's certainly some sort of libertarian/left communist bit though. Perhaps council communism is what you're thinking of?
Lisa
4th February 2009, 17:42
Communist:hammersickle:
Killfacer
4th February 2009, 17:43
The man with the plan
NecroCommie
4th February 2009, 19:00
Marxist-Leninist. A Revolutionary with a capital R!
Comrade Anarchist
4th February 2009, 21:18
Okay here is the definition of anarcho-communism. Anarchist communists propose that the freest form of social organisation would be a society composed of self-governing communes with collective use of the means of production, organized by direct democracy, and related to other communes through federation. I have that avatar because i believe that we only achieve these communes through socialism on a larger scale.
apathy maybe
4th February 2009, 21:27
I'm an elephant!
I think the way to bring about our perfect society is to crush all those who oppose us!
Oh, my perfect society? Primitivist techno love!
@ComradeMarx, a anarchist communist is "merely" an anarchist who believes that communism is the best way of achieving anarchy. But your definition works too ;).
Atlanta
4th February 2009, 21:53
A trade unionist a socialist a humanist and a worker.
and not an obama or nader supporter.
Greenman
4th February 2009, 22:33
Ecosocialist (It is not a question of red or green, but of how red and how green!)
Syndicalist (Though a mildly Treintista;) version - as we cannot leave the political field to reaction, but should not be fooled into believing that the political field alone can achieve what needs to be achieved - see below)
Techno-progressive
Because the only hope we have of species survival is to spread out beyond this planet, and to do that we must advance and mature sufficiently as a world civilization to achieve space colonisation, and to do that we must defend, protect and revive our ecosystem so that we have a fighting chance of having enough time, (stray asteroids permitting - we really are a planetary sitting duck) and to do that we must end Capitalism (which is ecocidal/terminal by nature - Capital recognises no boundaries and seeks to overcome all obstacles to accumulation)...and to do that requires the international organisation and mobilisation of the global working class....:)
Invincible Summer
4th February 2009, 22:39
Okay here is the definition of anarcho-communism. Anarchist communists propose that the freest form of social organisation would be a society composed of self-governing communes with collective use of the means of production, organized by direct democracy, and related to other communes through federation. I have that avatar because i believe that we only achieve these communes through socialism on a larger scale.
But you were talking about how an organized, centralized body (the state) should organize the communes, and that really throws me off.
StalinFanboy
4th February 2009, 23:41
Okay here is the definition of anarcho-communism. Anarchist communists propose that the freest form of social organisation would be a society composed of self-governing communes with collective use of the means of production, organized by direct democracy, and related to other communes through federation. I have that avatar because i believe that we only achieve these communes through socialism on a larger scale.
But see, anarchism is an end, as well as a tactic. We are anarchists because we fucking hate the state.
Dust Bunnies
4th February 2009, 23:44
Communist with Left Communist and Trotskyist leanings
griffjam
5th February 2009, 01:48
But see, anarchism is an end, as well as a tactic. We are anarchists because we fucking hate the state.
The great thing about anarchy is that it is ever changing and evolving, a means without an end.
black magick hustla
5th February 2009, 02:48
Corrected.
hey bud, dont troll the boards, especially me. consider this a verbal warning. :rolleyes:
Q
5th February 2009, 03:21
Okay here is the definition of anarcho-communism. Anarchist communists propose that the freest form of social organisation would be a society composed of self-governing communes with collective use of the means of production, organized by direct democracy, and related to other communes through federation. I have that avatar because i believe that we only achieve these communes through socialism on a larger scale.
It sounds more like Trotskyism or Council-Communism to me.
Also, the avatar has nothing to do with socialism, but is the logo of social-democracy. The sharp divide between the two is the question: revolution or reformism? The former is socialist, the latter is social-democratic. I recommend Luxemburg's work on this (http://www.marxists.org/archive/luxemburg/1900/reform-revolution/index.htm).
Glorious Union
5th February 2009, 03:30
Utilitarian Democratic Communist.
Tzonteyotl
5th February 2009, 08:26
Communist. And...
I love Rosa Luxemburg! To put it in heavy cult-worship-like terms, haha.
Tower of Bebel
5th February 2009, 15:06
Something that could combine (theoretical and practical) contributions from (in alphabetical order):
Bebel, Engels, Lassalle, Lenin, Liebknecht W., Liebknecht K., Luxemburg, Kautsky, Marx and Trotsky. I don't want to annoy people by claiming that something exists along the lines of Marxism-Kautskyism-Leninism-Luxemburgism-Trotskyism (MKLLT).
Die Neue Zeit
6th February 2009, 04:35
Something that could combine (theoretical and practical) contributions from (in alphabetical order):
Bebel, Engels, Lassalle, Lenin, Liebknecht W., Liebknecht K., Luxemburg, Kautsky, Marx and Trotsky. I don't want to be annoy people with claiming that something exists along the lines of Marxism-Kautskyism-Leninism-Luxemburgism-Trotskyism (MKLLT).
Well, comrade, you can always try "Marxism-Leninism-Maoism - Prachanda Path." ;)
For me, modern-day "Prachandas" would be comrades Paul Cockshott and Mike Macnair. :D
Besides being a social-abolitionist-and-proletocrat (hence "social-proletocrat"), I suppose that, in terms of individuals, "Kautskyan Marxist" or "revolutionary centrist" would come closest.
Wakizashi the Bolshevik
7th February 2009, 09:39
Hey, dunno if this have been done before.. It prolly have :), but i'll make the thread anyway.
Where are you politically?, are you an anarchist, communist, socialist or anarcho-communist and so on.
I'm a communist.
I'm a Communist: Bolshevik, Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist-Maoist-Castroist,
Anti-revisionist,...
:cool:
AnthArmo
7th February 2009, 11:14
Rage against the machine-ist :laugh:
Malakangga
7th February 2009, 11:41
malakaist libertarian socialist
Искра
14th October 2009, 01:35
anarcho-syndicalist
spiltteeth
14th October 2009, 01:46
Post-Maoist.
I haven't heard a really credible idea of how communism would function in today's world, nor how a capitalist society would transition to one, and hold on to it.
What I believe in doesn't exist yet.
I suspect it will be born in the heat of the revolution, as specific unforeseen problems arise, and I think Marx, Lenin, and Mao will be used as a reference point.
The Accomplice
14th October 2009, 02:04
I'm an Anarchist with an interest in Communism and Technocracy.
9
14th October 2009, 03:25
Communist with Trotskyist leanings.
this.
Invincible Summer
14th October 2009, 03:41
Earlier this year, I considered myself as an:
Anarchist with De Leonist and Marxist sympathies.
Nowadays, I'm not even sure I'd identify as an Anarchist, at least not as staunchly as I did before.
I'd say I'm just a Communist, but if I had to specify, I'd say I'm interested in Anarchism and Left Communism and heavily sympathetic towards Technocracy
scarletghoul
14th October 2009, 04:01
I am a communist.
Anaximander
14th October 2009, 04:03
Communist in the Marxist tradition with Anarchist tendencies.
Durruti's Ghost
14th October 2009, 04:11
Anarchist-Communist-Feminist-Syndicalist with classical Marxist sympathies.
Manifesto
14th October 2009, 04:14
Anarchist with Marxist/Leninist sympathies.
The Red Next Door
14th October 2009, 04:14
democratic socialist sympathic to anarchist ideas
Tatarin
14th October 2009, 04:17
What I am? You know that strange robotic sound outside your window you hear just before you go to bed?
LOLseph Stalin
14th October 2009, 04:21
I'm a communist.
Decommissioner
14th October 2009, 04:24
I just consider myself a Marxist. Perhaps with council communist leanings, however I find the presence of a communist party important. Where most envision the party as an oppressive agent, I believe if the "leaders" of the party functioned more as recallable delagates, just as the delegates for the councils are, then there would be no concern of top down rule emerging. I am wrestling with the idea of multiple parties being important in this scenerio, since if the ruling party enacts on the direct will of the working class, than this parties' platform can transform accordingly, thus really eliminating the need for multiple parties. If this is so, then I guess you could say the one party state would really be considered a no party state. Not sure though, I have much learning to do.
Bright Banana Beard
14th October 2009, 04:31
Anti-Revisionist Marxist-Leninist.
BorealStorm
14th October 2009, 06:09
A less than perfectly Marxist Communist. For instance strongly disagreeing with the idea of the Dictator of the Proletariat. Authoritarianist leftism way too easily devolved into Third Positionist and problematically Nationalist sort of thinking. I don't like Authority, whether it be from Capitalism or the State.
That being said, my Northern Tribalist Obsession of sorts certainly looks like a brand of Nationalism. Strongly resembling that of Douglas Pearce and a lot of the other thinkers in Neofolk and Black Metal music. But I'm by no means sharing much ground with any of those silly Nationalist and Separatist groups out there. Inter-tribal relations are a beautiful thing.
I'm surely no closer to a nationalist than Mikhail Bakunin. And now that I've mentioned it, I'm a Libertarian Leftist strongly along the veins of and influence of Mikhail Bakunin, Noam Chomsky, Jello Biafra, Dennis Kucinich, Murray Bookchin, Ralph Nader, and Peter Kropotkin.
But that's not to say I don't take influence from Authoritarian Socialists and Libertarian Rightists to some degree. I consider both Max Stirner and Vladimir Lenin to be important figures to me.
So, I would say, Libertarian Socialist ~ Libertarian Leftist, Minarchist, Communist, Green Anarchist, Eurasian Polyculturalist, Environmentalist, Counterculturalist, and a few go betweens between Feminist, Animist, Universalist, Tribalist, and Anti-Religionist thinking.
Il Medico
14th October 2009, 06:15
Timelord.
Left Communist w/anarchist sympathies.
9
14th October 2009, 06:31
What I am? You know that strange robotic sound outside your window you hear just before you go to bed?
:blink: You're the Boeing Plant?
bcbm
14th October 2009, 06:34
my name is bcbm and i'm an alcoholic
Cooler Reds Will Prevail
14th October 2009, 11:38
Anti-Sectarian Left Maoist, but still learning...
Olerud
14th October 2009, 11:51
I am a communist.
This. In the end i don't think we should focus on our tendencies too much.:hammersickle:
TRS
14th October 2009, 12:47
Anarcho-syndicalist
Искра
14th October 2009, 13:25
Anarchist with Marxist/Leninist sympathies.
???????????:rolleyes:
How can you be anarchist and sympathise Leninism?
The pizza crazed Anarchist
14th October 2009, 13:35
Anarcho-communist platformist
BorealStorm
14th October 2009, 13:40
How can you be anarchist and sympathise Leninism?
It certainly can't be any part of his Authoritarian Socialism.
I suppose every Communist has a common thread of sorts.
But it seems like an odd choice of mention. One would be much more on the side of the Left Communists if a Left Libertarian of any sort. Vladamir Lenin is an interesting Authoritarian Leftist figure, but...I feel quite sorry for the more Libertarian folks who suffered from his unfettered power.
Искра
14th October 2009, 13:43
It certainly can't be any part of his Authoritarian Socialism.
I suppose every Communist has a common thread of sorts.
But it seems like an odd choice of mention. One would be much more on the side of the Left Communists if a Left Libertarian of any sort. Vladamir Lenin is an interesting Authoritarian Leftist figure, but...I feel quite sorry for the more Libertarian folks who suffered from his unfettered power.
I agree whit you.
Anarchism is against authority and Leninism is authoritarian... I don't get it, where's connection?
Ovi
14th October 2009, 13:47
A less than perfectly Marxist Communist...
So, I would say, Libertarian Socialist ~ Libertarian Leftist, Minarchist...
So you're a marxist, anarchist and liberal at the same time?
BorealStorm
14th October 2009, 13:54
I'm for reducing Capitalism and Government as much as possible.
The Communist goal is a classless AND stateless society, after all.
I look at government as more of a decreasing lifeline instead of something that orders people around. Way too many laws and such right now. And far too many of them incredibly stupid and useless.
I don't think "more government" is the answer to "Capitalism is awful!".
Even though they call Libertarian Socialism a form of Anarchism most of the time, I'd classify a lot of Libertarian Leftists as more Minarchist than Anarchist.
I'm more of short term Minarchist Left with the long term goal of pure Anarchism or real Communism.
Minarchism isn't quite stateless enough to be truly Communist.
But it makes for a good more short term goal, if that makes any sense.
Искра
14th October 2009, 14:53
Libertarianism is corrupted word, because of that Libertarian party in USA which is nothing but a liberal shit!
In Libertarian Communism, libertarian stands as against the state and authority.
DesertShark
14th October 2009, 15:17
Anarchist.
Stranger Than Paradise
14th October 2009, 15:52
Anarcho-Syndicalist.
With sympathies for libertarian strands of Marxism.
proudcomrade
14th October 2009, 16:51
aligned along Marx, Engels and Lenin; and no to to both Trotsky and anarchism
Manifesto
14th October 2009, 21:15
???????????:rolleyes:
How can you be anarchist and sympathise Leninism?
*sigh* I knew that would happen but yes I view Lenin as a good leader and to be perfectly honest I do not give a fuck how communism is achieved as long as it does (yes there are limits to it) I think Anarchism is the best way to do so and I oppose power. Is there really that much of a difference from Marxism and Marxist/Leninism to where there is a problem with it?
Pogue
14th October 2009, 21:19
*sigh* I knew that would happen but yes I view Lenin as a good leader and to be perfectly honest I do not give a fuck how communism is achieved as long as it does (yes there are limits to it) I think Anarchism is the best way to do so and I oppose power. Is there really that much of a difference from Marxism and Marxist/Leninism to where there is a problem with it?
a good leader who killed anarcho communists, nice one.
I'm an libertarian socialist, an anarchist in the platformist tradition i suppose, major influences from anarcho-syndicalism. a very pragmatic anarcho-communist i suppose, i see communism acheived through anarchist means i am just not really concerned too much with all that, i am interested in building working class power in the here and now and seeing how it goes.
Manifesto
14th October 2009, 21:22
a good leader who killed anarcho communists, nice one.
Yes I am quite aware of that but still many Marxist leaders have done that because they viewed them as harmful to the revolution..
Pogue
14th October 2009, 21:24
Yes I am quite aware of that but still many Marxist leaders have done that because they viewed them as harmful to the revolution..
Yes, why do you think they believed that? And why would you respect someone who sees anarchists as harmful to the 'revolution'?
Manifesto
14th October 2009, 21:27
Yes, why do you think they believed that? And why would you respect someone who sees anarchists as harmful to the 'revolution'?
Respect is too strong of a word and they probably thought that because of Marx.
which doctor
14th October 2009, 21:39
I'm an ------ist -------ist with ------ist tendencies and I sympathize with the ------ists.
By next week I'll have a different costume on.
Lyev
14th October 2009, 21:47
I'm not sure grouping ourselves into isms, beyond communist and anarchist, really furthers our cause. Proudhon says 'Equality of conditions is the law of society, and universal solidarity [solidarité] is the ratification of this law'.
Crux
15th October 2009, 05:27
Marxism-Leninism-Leon Trotsky's Thought. ;)
RedSpartacus
15th October 2009, 09:18
Oh, we're playing the which box I would like to categorize myself in! Isn't this how the Catholic convinces himself that he is better than the Quaker, Amish, Orthodox, Church of Nazarene, Jehovah's witness, Evangelical Lutheran, Pentecostal, Presbyterian, Anglican, Later day Advent...etc, followers?
I suppose if I had to play I would say Anracho-socialist. However, as long as you're an anti-capitalist, anti-racist, anti-government tyranny leaning fella/gal I would doff my hat to you and say pleased to make your acquaintance. Because I guess what matters at the end of the day is that we all have the one common objective, and as long as you don't want to replace the tyranny of capitalism with the tyranny of the state I'm more than happy to call you my friend and work alongside you to achieve that ultimate end.
Unity not division my esteemed comrades, so let's not split hairs over trivialities
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