Nfl

[Killfacer]

Why is American football so shit? Is it because of the constant breaks? Is it because it was invented by inbread children? Is it because it smacks of American shittyness?

Stupid Superbowl is shitty.

[jake williams]

I think it's because it combines radical homophobia and extended man-on-man contact in a weird way.

[Intifadah]

It's not football, you could count with your hands how many times the ball comes into contact with a foot. 'American Throw Ball and Run' maybe.

[Angry Young Man]

I think it's because it combines radical homophobia and extended man-on-man contact in a weird way.

It sounds ever more like rugby on steroids.

[Vendetta]

Haters.

Go Steelers.

[Blackscare]

Yea fuck you all american football is awesome.

Beats boring ass soccer :P

[Angry Young Man]

But footballers are gorgeous :wub::wub:
(That's footballers as in the British, French, Spanish and everywhere else in the worldish sense)

[Comrade B]

Fucking great game today honestly. The commercials are irritating and long, but the game was great, even though I lost money on the game (Steelers winning by 8), and my preferred team lost (Cardinals)

[BPSocialist]

Well, you see: Before the late 19th centuary (and certainly when America was being colonised), the rules of football (or futeball as it was known back then) had not been set out yet. This led to constant blurring of what was acceptable, including picking up the ball and running with it.

This led to the slow evolution of the different ball games we know as Football, Rugby, American Football and Australian Football (the latter three being quite similar to each other).

Nobody is quite sure where the father of football comes from, but it is thought to be a strange mix of Celtic, Roman, Saxon and Vicking ball sports.

Hope this answers your question:)

[Angry Young Man]

It's English. That's why England's the only team (well, of any worth) not full of cheating bloody acrobats!

Obviously the rules about fair play don't translate easily into Portuguese :p

[BPSocialist]

No, it's a mix of Scandinavian, German, Italian and Irish sports, that has slowly evolved into 4 different sports. Did you not read my post above? That's a Qi fact that, endorsed by Stephen Fry.

[F9]

Why is American football so shit? Is it because of the constant breaks? Is it because it was invented by inbread children? Is it because it smacks of American shittyness?

Stupid Superbowl is shitty.

I would expect something better from you, when we have to do with football(real one)!You disappointed me!!:rolleyes:

[Killfacer]

I would expect something better from you, when we have to do with football(real one)!You disappointed me!!:rolleyes:

That's what it's called though! It's called "American football". Now proper English football is a game to behold. Wondeful flowing games or bone crunching lower league cup games. Great sutff

The problem with shitty American football is that it's crap. It's the kind of thing hyperactive kids on speed would have made in Physical Education. Far too many rules, you can't exactly just throw down a jumper or two and have a kick about. It's pure shit. The players are morons, the commentators sound like fucking idiots and people who like it are tasteless idiots who like people pissing in their eyes.

[F9]

That's what it's called though! It's called "American football". Now proper English football is a game to behold. Wondeful flowing games or bone crunching lower league cup games. Great sutff

The problem with shitty American football is that it's crap. It's the kind of thing hyperactive kids on speed would have made in Physical Education. Far too many rules, you can't exactly just throw down a jumper or two and have a kick about. It's pure shit. The players are morons, the commentators sound like fucking idiots and people who like it are tasteless idiots who like people pissing in their eyes.

whats the point of calling something football when it dont plays with the foot!Its an idiotic name!

[BPSocialist]

It's an American game.

[Blackscare]

Americans tend to find your football boring and shitty, it's all relative. What I find strange is this anger that anyone on earth dare to enjoy a game that isn't internationally popular.

Me, I prefer Lacrosse and basketball, but I love football. It's more of a game of chess than a fluid back and forth game like basketball or soccer. The individual players may or may not be dumb (depending on the position they play they may need to be quite tactically aware), but the strategy and complexity involved makes for a fun game to watch.

[Iowa656]

I think the OP's questions are actually quite insulting.

We all like to do different things.
Activities you like and enjoy other people don't.

You may not like American Football, but that does NOT make it shit.

In fact I think it's the second most watched sporting event, after the Olympics of course, in the world.

I think the actual game in incredible, the atmosphere and suspense in last nights game was incalculable.

I do have very critical opinions on the current situation of the game, the fact, like British football, that everything is controlled by money. It is more a measure of how rich a team is than how good the players are. However that does not dispute it always is an incredible watch.

This world, let alone this forum, has no place for bigotry.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

I think the OP's questions are actually quite insulting.

We all like to do different things.
Activities you like and enjoy other people don't.

You may not like American Football, but that does NOT make it shit.

In fact I think it's the second most watched sporting event, after the Olympics of course, in the world.

I think the actual game in incredible, the atmosphere and suspense in last nights game was incalculable.

I do have very critical opinions on the current situation of the game, the fact, like British football, that everything is controlled by money. It is more a measure of how rich a team is than how good the players are. However that does not dispute it always is an incredible watch.

This world, let alone this forum, has no place for bigotry.

Shut up. Its shit and thats the end of it.

[Panda Tse Tung]

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=xyWZyGEh5DY

[Blackscare]

I think the OP's questions are actually quite insulting.

We all like to do different things.
Activities you like and enjoy other people don't.

You may not like American Football, but that does NOT make it shit.

In fact I think it's the second most watched sporting event, after the Olympics of course, in the world.

I think the actual game in incredible, the atmosphere and suspense in last nights game was incalculable.

I do have very critical opinions on the current situation of the game, the fact, like British football, that everything is controlled by money. It is more a measure of how rich a team is than how good the players are. However that does not dispute it always is an incredible watch.

This world, let alone this forum, has no place for bigotry.

I disagree, every team these days has massive spending power, and the salary cap that was relatively recently introduced (to prevent dynasties, like that stopped new england lol) works pretty well. There aren't any down and out teams. In fact, as it's been shown in baseball in regards to the yankees (mets fan here, just making a point), every team rakes in plenty of cash. Some owners decide to put more of their profits back into the teams than others. Any team could spend as much as any other team (and they do, thanks to the cap)

I'd imagine that internationally, with a much more vast array of teams, that there would be markets that simply didn't raise enough money to compete, though.

[ls]

Ha! There was a great shitty thing earlier on about how NFL is so democratic.

It's meant to be "Socialist" because it carefully and supposedly fairly hands out money and regulation to all the teams and players so that no one cheats.

Yeah, that's why commercials in the middle of the game by Obama et al net them so much bloody money. :confused:

The game itself is ok, GOOD football as in soccer, by the likes of George Best is just excellent to watch, I'm sure the equivalent football as in not-really-football at such a talented level is also great to watch, although most of the time watching quarterbacks make it half way looks is kind of (in my experience), well it's fun for a while then it gets boring (sat through the 2004 superbowl, ne patriots vs some other team I can't remember the name of).

[Invincible Summer]

Team sports are counter-revolutionary. It divides the proletariat along franchise team lines.

[Blackscare]

Team sports are counter-revolutionary. It divides the proletariat along franchise team lines.
lol that's sarcasm right? please?

[butterfly]

At risk of being forever ostracised by footy fans, I don't get sport's that don't involve balance at high speeds. Sooooo boring.

[MarxSchmarx]

Name me one other national sport that is as cerebral, complex, and strategic as American football.

(Tapping feet...)

I knew you couldn't.

OK, the Russians have chess, but that's about it.

Sports isn't just about mindless athleticism like running the fastest or elegant bicycle kicks. No, it's about strategy, about being nimble, and about thinking up a plan and executing it. These elements are present to a lesser degree in other sports, but in American football, they come to fruition.

[butterfly]

Surfing

[MarxSchmarx]

Surfing

(1) This is a national sport of where? Hawaii is no longer an independent country.

(2) the problem with surfing is that the strategizing isn't continuous. Too much of the time is spent sitting around on the board until sets of waves come in.

[butterfly]

Ok, Ok I concede. (It should be Australias National sport...who determines that anyway?).

[Invincible Summer]

lol that's sarcasm right? please?

Let's put it this way - team sports should be banned in revolutionary/post-revolutionary society and any reactionaries who wish to play their sports of bourgeois decadence (American football, soccer, baseball, curling and cricket) will be sent to the gula... re-education camps where they will learn the true proletariat sports of interpretive dance and figure skating, as Anarchism promotes expression of the individual to develop one's humanity.


Name me one other national sport that is as cerebral, complex, and strategic as American football.

(Tapping feet...)

I knew you couldn't.

OK, the Russians have chess, but that's about it.

Sports isn't just about mindless athleticism like running the fastest or elegant bicycle kicks. No, it's about strategy, about being nimble, and about thinking up a plan and executing it. These elements are present to a lesser degree in other sports, but in American football, they come to fruition.

To be fair, running and biking require strategy (when to use more energy, when to pace yourself, when to charge forward, etc).

Martial arts also require physical ability and strategy.

[butterfly]

Also why is it so male dominated? Educate me, I was brought up with motorcycle racing.

[Raúl Duke]

I actually prefer soccer (the real football)...
I don't like the multiple breaks in U.S. football and in general.

[jake williams]

Real football is way more psychologically demanding than American football. It makes a big difference when you're not taking breaks every 8 seconds to come up with a new plan.

[Angry Young Man]

Real football is way more psychologically demanding than American football. It makes a big difference when you're not taking breaks every 8 seconds to come up with a new plan.

This.

[Killfacer]

I think the OP's questions are actually quite insulting.

We all like to do different things.
Activities you like and enjoy other people don't.

You may not like American Football, but that does NOT make it shit.

In fact I think it's the second most watched sporting event, after the Olympics of course, in the world.

I think the actual game in incredible, the atmosphere and suspense in last nights game was incalculable.

I do have very critical opinions on the current situation of the game, the fact, like British football, that everything is controlled by money. It is more a measure of how rich a team is than how good the players are. However that does not dispute it always is an incredible watch.

This world, let alone this forum, has no place for bigotry.

Your game is shit. The rules are stupid, they make sense but they appear to have been made up by a baby monkey on crack (or an American as i like to call them). It's just a poor game. The atmosepheres are shit and there is no tension between the fans. It's all a load of patriotic gushy American drivle.

Go play some proper sports instead of your shit.

You're an idiot. Considering that 715 million people watched the world cup final and a pathetic 97 Million watched the superbowl it would appear you are wrong.

[Killfacer]

Bigotry? You're an idiot if you think that is bigotry. What i said later about American's being like crack smoking apes was bigotry.

[Killfacer]

Name me one other national sport that is as cerebral, complex, and strategic as American football.

(Tapping feet...)

I knew you couldn't.

OK, the Russians have chess, but that's about it.

Sports isn't just about mindless athleticism like running the fastest or elegant bicycle kicks. No, it's about strategy, about being nimble, and about thinking up a plan and executing it. These elements are present to a lesser degree in other sports, but in American football, they come to fruition.

Tactics? Not tactical in the slightest. They have their shitty little books and with some "plays" in. It's poor. Now watching a two game champions league match where tactics actually matter, that is interesting. People like Mourinho and Benitez are about 5 trillion times as clever than your shitty american football coaches.

[Angry Young Man]

Let's just cool it here. Maybe Killfacer has a point about American football being jingoistic crap or that Americans don't play sports that everyone else in the world plays because it would be maiming to the American psyche that they might perchance get pummeled by a country that not long ago they bombed the streets to lino; and maybe MarxSchmarx has a point about it being more intelligent than it looks.

[F9]

Let's put it this way - team sports should be banned in revolutionary/post-revolutionary society and any reactionaries who wish to play their sports of bourgeois decadence (American football, soccer, baseball, curling and cricket) will be sent to the gula... re-education camps where they will learn the true proletariat sports of interpretive dance and figure skating, as Anarchism promotes expression of the individual to develop one's humanity.

Either you are joking either you dont have much intelligence to be proud of!:rolleyes:

[Bilan]

It's an American game.

stop doing that!

Also, NFL is boring, and just really violent.

[BPSocialist]

Doing what?

[Sasha]

amarican footbal sucks becuase of most of the reason mentioned above but most because of all the padding.
in a (full-)contact sport its not only about what you can give, but also what you can take. thats why rugby, australian and gaelic football are cool and amarican football sucks ass.
and at least at lacross and icehockey you get some decent punch ups.
but anyway, i dont care that much at all about teamsports.
muaythai/kickboxing/MMA/shooto is way more my thing anyway.

[Iowa656]

Shut up. Its shit and thats the end of it.

Come back when you can have an intelligent conversation.


...salary cap that was relatively recently introduced (to prevent dynasties, like that stopped new england lol) works pretty well...

I apologise, I was unaware of these monopoly preventative measures at the time of writing my first comment. I do withdraw it.


Team sports are counter-revolutionary. It divides the proletariat along franchise team lines.

I sense you are attempting to be serious. Unfortunately team based sports can lead to divisions amongst the proletariat, so perhaps you are correct. But to ban or attempt to ban team based activities would be a failure to the working class as a whole.

Understanding from group psychology will aid the effort to reduce unhealthy competition. Practical measures like meeting and befriending the opposing team (or their supporters) will dramatically reduce violence and abuse between different groups.


Your game is shit. The rules are stupid, they make sense but they appear to have been made up by a baby monkey on crack (or an American as i like to call them). It's just a poor game. The atmosepheres are shit and there is no tension between the fans. It's all a load of patriotic gushy American drivle.

Go play some proper sports instead of your shit.

You're an idiot. Considering that 715 million people watched the world cup final and a pathetic 97 Million watched the superbowl it would appear you are wrong.

Oh come on now. There is no need to insult me.

1. American Football is not "my" game. In fact I am British. Yet I still like it.

2. What constitutes you denunciation of the rules being "shit". What makes the rules of the game so damn wrong? I could call the rules of Chess the same thing. But I don't. I'm not a great fan of chess, but I don't go around insulting the rules.

3. Atmosphere's are relative. Watching a soccer game I feel no atmosphere, I don't enjoy it at all. However many other people do. That does not make me right and them wrong. We don't have to all enjoy the same thing.

4. It is overly patriotic to America. That doesn't qualify the game as bad though.


American footbal sucks ...because of all the padding...

Without the padding there would be serious injuries caused to every single player in every game. Hardly practical hey? The reason there is much more padding compared to other sports is because of the level of contact.


I really expected better from this forum.
Aren't we supposed to be the most understanding and intelligent part of society?

[Sasha]

Without the padding there would be serious injuries caused to every single player in every game. Hardly practical hey? The reason there is much more padding compared to other sports is because of the level of contact.


not true, (this might seem to contradict my earlier statement about padding but it doesn't, its just another problem related to padding) why do more Amarican football players get in the end seriously hurt than rugby players? the same reason that more profesional boxers get serious health problem than MMA fighters.
padding might seem to protect you but in the end it can kill you (look at Mohamed Ali and his parkinson), with padding you can hit other people harder without injuring yourself and you can take more without going out, sustained repetive trauma is way more dangerous than direct trauma, for example; the statiscal amount of fatalities in boxing has risen dramaticly since they don't fight bareknuckel anymore


I really expected better from this forum.
Aren't we supposed to be the most understanding and intelligent part of society?

A. what an patronizing arogant atitude (are you an vanguardist or sommething? :rolleyes:)
B. we just dont like the game, the topic is in chit-chat, if you want an serious discussion open a topic in the sports group.

[Blackscare]

Patronizing and arrogant would be taking the position that it's ok to insult people in america or things americans like because our government is run by bad men. This total lack of perspective on bigotry (it's bad directed against oppressed people but fine when it's turned around on average americans) is (part) of the reason conflict has been a constant in human history.

I still don't understand why so many of you are angry that a group of people haven't assimilated and submitted to everyone else's tastes. Why should you care? Especially when most of you seem to know nothing about football in the first place. Killfacer, you seem especially ignorant, and because of your willingness to run your mouth in spite of that, especially stupid. You obviously haven't been to many games if you think there's no tension between fans. We're just not stupid enough to go out and riot at the end of a game. The idea that you would riot over the results of such a boring game is actually really puzzling. :confused:

And of course more people watch the world cup or whateer you call it, we're one country playing our own sport. We're also much bigger than europe combined, so we really don't need to compete with other countries to have a good football season. So many idiots fail to recognize that there are diverse regions in america that have mutual animosity often times and compete with each other.

To americans soccer is a children's game. Adults usually have no interest in it. It's not like we're ignorant of the game, many of us played on teams as kids. It just doesn't suit most people's tastes. At least we know what soccer is and why we think it's shit, while most have you have watched a superbowl once and decided you hate football (superbowls are usually blow outs, any fan could tell you that).

[Invincible Summer]

Either you are joking either you dont have much intelligence to be proud of!:rolleyes:



...

I sense you are attempting to be serious. Unfortunately team based sports can lead to divisions amongst the proletariat, so perhaps you are correct. But to ban or attempt to ban team based activities would be a failure to the working class as a whole.

Understanding from group psychology will aid the effort to reduce unhealthy competition. Practical measures like meeting and befriending the opposing team (or their supporters) will dramatically reduce violence and abuse between different groups.

...

I really expected better from this forum.
Aren't we supposed to be the most understanding and intelligent part of society?

Evidently, intelligence + internet + sarcasm = massive implosion of understandings.

I hoped that people would see that I was being sarcastic when I mentioned how all sports except interpretive dance and figure skating should be banned...

[Blackscare]

Evidently, intelligence + internet + sarcasm = massive implosion of understandings.

I hoped that people would see that I was being sarcastic when I mentioned how all sports except interpretive dance and figure skating should be banned...

If it's any consolation, I got it :lol:

[Iowa656]

..padding...

A. what an patronizing arogant atitude (are you an vanguardist or sommething? :rolleyes:)
B. we just dont like the game, the topic is in chit-chat, if you want an serious discussion open a topic in the sports group.


But the point is that padding doesn't prevent all the injuries. Clearly American football is SO much more dangerous that even with the padding injuries are more serious that rugby.


A+B
Even if i am having a casual conversation among friends and the response I receive is "It's shit your stupid" then I find it rather offensive.

If you don't like it. Say something like "I don't like it, it's not for me, I don't think the rules lead to an atmospheric game" whatever really not "Your stupid SHUT UP".



Evidently, intelligence + internet + sarcasm = massive implosion of understandings.

I hoped that people would see that I was being sarcastic when I mentioned how all sports except interpretive dance and figure skating should be banned...

Ha. Guess I really am too serious. Or you are too cunning?

[Mujer Libre]

Name me one other national sport that is as cerebral, complex, and strategic as American football.

Um... cricket is a million times more cerebral than American football and most other sports. There are millions of little subtle variations and decisions to be made. The game has its own language and a good game resembles theatre as much as sport.

[Killfacer]

Oh come on now. There is no need to insult me.

1. American Football is not "my" game. In fact I am British. Yet I still like it.

2. What constitutes you denunciation of the rules being "shit". What makes the rules of the game so damn wrong? I could call the rules of Chess the same thing. But I don't. I'm not a great fan of chess, but I don't go around insulting the rules.

3. Atmosphere's are relative. Watching a soccer game I feel no atmosphere, I don't enjoy it at all. However many other people do. That does not make me right and them wrong. We don't have to all enjoy the same thing.

4. It is overly patriotic to America. That doesn't qualify the game as bad though.


1. I will insult you because you are tasteless
2. The rules are shit for starters because there are far too many of them, it's just a moronic game. No game should have that many lines on a pitch.
3. Atmosphere is not relative. You must have gone to a Manchest United game, it's always silent there. American football atmospheres are okay if you're a flag waving fuckwitt or a five year old.
4. It does qualify the game as bad, you're a traitor to europe. Go live in America, you are not wanted here.

[Blackscare]

Killfacer you embody all that people claim to hate in americans, you're arrogant, stupid, you don't back up your claims and you're obnoxious as all hell.

Fuck you and your eurocentric bullshit.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Come back when you can have an intelligent conversation.



I apologise, I was unaware of these monopoly preventative measures at the time of writing my first comment. I do withdraw it.



I sense you are attempting to be serious. Unfortunately team based sports can lead to divisions amongst the proletariat, so perhaps you are correct. But to ban or attempt to ban team based activities would be a failure to the working class as a whole.

Understanding from group psychology will aid the effort to reduce unhealthy competition. Practical measures like meeting and befriending the opposing team (or their supporters) will dramatically reduce violence and abuse between different groups.



Oh come on now. There is no need to insult me.

1. American Football is not "my" game. In fact I am British. Yet I still like it.

2. What constitutes you denunciation of the rules being "shit". What makes the rules of the game so damn wrong? I could call the rules of Chess the same thing. But I don't. I'm not a great fan of chess, but I don't go around insulting the rules.

3. Atmosphere's are relative. Watching a soccer game I feel no atmosphere, I don't enjoy it at all. However many other people do. That does not make me right and them wrong. We don't have to all enjoy the same thing.

4. It is overly patriotic to America. That doesn't qualify the game as bad though.



Without the padding there would be serious injuries caused to every single player in every game. Hardly practical hey? The reason there is much more padding compared to other sports is because of the level of contact.


I really expected better from this forum.
Aren't we supposed to be the most understanding and intelligent part of society?

Your shit and the only reason you like US handball is because you have a small willy

[spartan]

I don't really like or hate American Football, I have watched some games that I have enjoyed and some that I haven't.

One of the major faults of the sport is the fact that after every tackle they stop play for a few minutes and that period of time is filled with endless advertisements/commercials.

It's like a capitalists wet dream!

[Blackscare]

I don't really like or hate American Football, I have watched some games that I have enjoyed and some that I haven't.

One of the major faults of the sport is the fact that after every tackle they stop play for a few minutes and that period of time is filled with endless advertisements/commercials.

It's like a capitalists wet dream!

After every tackle they stop play for a few seconds until they get back in formation. It's not like after every play they cut to commercial.

[redSHARP]

i don't like watching football, but i love playing it in the backyard! the NFL is to commercial, speaking of which all sports in america is, but the NFL and MLB are really driven by advertisements, its not about the sport anymore.

p.s. anyone else see that bad ass GI Joe movie teaser during the superbowl?

[Invincible Summer]

i don't like watching football, but i love playing it in the backyard! the NFL is to commercial, speaking of which all sports in america is, but the NFL and MLB are really driven by advertisements, its not about the sport anymore.

I agree.


p.s. anyone else see that bad GI Joe movie teaser during the superbowl?

Fixed.

[redSHARP]

hahahaha! you bastard!:tt2:

anyone else ask this question during the superbowl?
"what would you rather win? the world cup or the superbowl?"
everyone in the room answered with world cup, with out a second of doubt:lol:

[Killfacer]

Killfacer you embody all that people claim to hate in americans, you're arrogant, stupid, you don't back up your claims and you're obnoxious as all hell.

Fuck you and your eurocentric bullshit.

So now disliking American football means i'm eurocentric? Although you were right about the obnoxious bit, i wills top being a prick. It's just a shit sport.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Rallying (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rallying) for the win. A near-perfect fusion of man and machine.

[Angry Young Man]

Yea except you don't get to see enough man. A near perfect fusion of man and machine is a cyborg ninja.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Yea except you don't get to see enough man. A near perfect fusion of man and machine is a cyborg ninja.

And people call me geeky. :laugh:

[Killfacer]

Killfacer you embody all that people claim to hate in americans, you're arrogant, stupid, you don't back up your claims and you're obnoxious as all hell.

Fuck you and your eurocentric bullshit.

Scratch my last reply. I'm going to give you good rep for doing me over.

[Blackscare]

Scratch my last reply. I'm going to give you good rep for doing me over.

Haha thanks man, I'll do the same for you for the gracious gesture :D

[ls]

Name me one other national sport that is as cerebral, complex, and strategic as American football.


:lol: You're joking right?

It has some strategic elements but cerebral, give me a break.



Sports isn't just about mindless athleticism like running the fastest or elegant bicycle kicks. No, it's about strategy, about being nimble, and about thinking up a plan and executing it. These elements are present to a lesser degree in other sports, but in American football, they come to fruition.

There is just as much strategy in football as there is in American football.

If you don't believe me, buy a football (as in soccer) strategy game, I've played Maiden NFL games and believe you me, a good few of the soccer ones are much more complex than that shit. It's just further proof that there is more to the game than you think. ;)

[Angry Young Man]

That said, being hurled abuse at by 15 heavily built dimmards, I think the noble art of verbal abuse would only get so far.

[MAVA]

GO OAKLAND RAIDERS!!!!!!
http://assets.espn.go.com/i/travel/media/mcafee_740.jpg

[Revulero]

sorry raiders suck, they dont got anything on the falcons. Soccer or boring football sucks. I'd rather see a big hit than to see players running back and forth not scoring until the end. But I do like to watch international soccer and I also like the penalty kicks at the end of a tie game, but still it isnt better than seeing your team down 3 at the 20 trying to score with 2 min. left in the game for a win. For you Europeans who say American Football sucks, you should come to the parties I throw.:thumbup1:

[Chicano Shamrock]

Americans tend to find your football boring and shitty, it's all relative. What I find strange is this anger that anyone on earth dare to enjoy a game that isn't internationally popular.
No we don't you ass. :laugh: Us Americans with any worth find soccer very entertaining. It's better to watch teams go at it for 45 mins without stops than watching a bunch of obese men huddle and talk for a minute then have a 7 second play and then huddle for another minute.

Go to a soccer game and get drunk. It's tons of fun.

[Chicano Shamrock]

Patronizing and arrogant would be taking the position that it's ok to insult people in america or things americans like because our government is run by bad men. This total lack of perspective on bigotry (it's bad directed against oppressed people but fine when it's turned around on average americans) is (part) of the reason conflict has been a constant in human history.

To americans soccer is a children's game. Adults usually have no interest in it. It's not like we're ignorant of the game, many of us played on teams as kids. It just doesn't suit most people's tastes. At least we know what soccer is and why we think it's shit, while most have you have watched a superbowl once and decided you hate football (superbowls are usually blow outs, any fan could tell you that).
What was that about patronizing and arrogant? We have no interest in it? Is that why LA Galaxy games are always sold out? Sure MLS isn't with the big 3(NBA,MLB,NFL) yet but we will get there.

Now if you want to know what makes english people really sound stupid is when they make fun of the fact that we call it soccer and then go on about how in the NFL feet are barely used... They fucking made the word soccer! The real name of the sport is Association Football. They used to call it soccer back in the day too but then it became more popular than rugby so they just called soccer football. Football is a family of games including soccer, rugby, gridiron(american) etc...

After we win the world cup in 2010 the English won't be so patronizing towards us. I mean they invented the game and have what.... one World Cup win. :P :lol: :laugh:

[bcbm]

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Packers. Nuf said

[Sasha]

After we win the world cup in 2010 the English won't be so patronizing towards us. I mean they invented the game and have what.... one World Cup win. :P :lol: :laugh:

hey hey, it sounds that would you suggest that england always gets their asses whooped by their old colonies in their "own" games...
surely thats not the fact with cricket en rugby....... oh wait :rolleyes:

[Killfacer]

Ah piss off. We fucked all of you in the olympics, as did our former colonies. Face it, if you used to belong to us, then you're set up for success. (Hence why the dutch fail at everything).

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

GO OAKLAND RAIDERS!!!!!!
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Eh too bad they've been shitty since the Bucs wallopped em in that Super Bowl...

But I'd rather watch them lose then grown men running around in circles kicking a ball around. Soccer is lame as hell.....

Nothing compares to the physical punishment that is the NFL.....

[Sasha]

(Hence why the dutch fail at everything).

not too be a chauvinistic nationalist but clearly you dont follow; ice skating, kickboxing, rings, judo, taekwando, field hockey, international baseball, prancing a horse around, until recently football (soccer), swimming etc etc...
for a country the size of one of your county's the dutch dominate or compete for the top position in quite a few sports. :lol:

[Module]

I've never actually watched a game of American football or know anything about how it's played.
What I do know, however, is that they seem to wear excessive armour and padding whilst doing seemingly the exact same thing as rugby players who wear mostly none at all.
Ironically I presume they think it makes them look more masculine padding up their shoulders to the size of bowling balls.

[Killfacer]

I've never actually watched a game of American football or know anything about how it's played.
What I do know, however, is that they seem to wear excessive armour and padding whilst doing seemingly the exact same thing as rugby players who wear mostly none at all.
Ironically I presume they think it makes them look more masculine padding up their shoulders to the size of bowling balls.

In fairness, (this is my understanding, it may be incorrect) any kind of tackle is allowed. You can spear someone in their chest and not be sin binned. In rugby, as you probably know, it's illegal to do high tackles.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Exactly.

Plus, those pads aren't leather or some other such bullshit, they're very hard plastic, the helmet being the hardest of all. The pads make it hurt more, not less. Or, at the least, the increase the damage one can do to the body of another person.