Fantasy Revolution League

[Blackscare]

Post your fantasy revolution teams! You get ten picks, they each have to fill a unique role. Feel free to provide extra info/pictures of your picks.

I'll post mine in a minute :D

[Blackscare]

Still working on my list, wanted to clarify something. Individuals only please! Naming whole ready made movements would be too easy.

[jake williams]

I'm in. It'll take awhile to come up with a list though.

[Blackscare]

I am admittedly obsessed with the Makhnovist movement, you'll notice that. You'll notice I also favor anarchists too. Also, the numbering means nothing other than the order I thought of them in.


1. Nestor Makhno - Ukrainian badass extraordinaire, he lead the Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army of Ukraine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Insurrectionary_Army_of_Ukraine) (known also at the time as the black army). Uneducated in formal tactics, he was still known among supporters and enemies as an amazing military leader, and this is why he's the head of my team in military terms. Also helped to write The Organizational Platform of the General Union of Anarchists (known simply as "The Platform").
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Machno.jpg/225px-Machno.jpg

2. Fedor Schuss - Sailor who faught with the Makhnovists, he was a prominent commander of troops and is mentioned a lot for his bravery on the front in a book I'm reading right now about Nestor Makhno. Plus he reminds me of an Oompa Loompa :D

3. Subcommandante Marcos - The Revolution's PR man.

4. Che - Obvious choice, but maybe different reasons. He's so damn photogenic, and we need a poster boy. Sure, he's great on the front lines, but he's plagued with bad luck :( Anyway, this is why we need him:
http://w1.1396.telia.com/%7Eu155900388/images/che_billedet01.jpg
Ain't he just adorable?

5. Buenaventura Durruti Dumange - I love ya, Durruti, but I have a soft spot for Makhno so you're second in command of the military. Maybe if Makhno had lived long enough to fight in the war (like he had planned and promised to do) you might have won :P

6. Piotr Arshinov - Every revolution should have in it's midst a writer who can Chronicle the glories of victory later, or write bitter rants about the reaction if we fail. Plus he co-wrote The Platform with Makhno.
http://meta.anarchopedia.org/images/e/e1/Arshinov.jpg

7. Maria Nikiforova - Loose cannon partisan, wasn't quite someone to be looked up to because of pillaging, but did leave many a romantic tale and exploded government official behind.

8. Father Gapon - Strange choice? He would be like the player from the opposing team who gets disoriented and winds up scoring a point for the other team. Not quite a member of our side, but hey, its my team! Get your own! :P He didn't lead a revolution, but the experiences of those who followed him contributed to public desire for violent revolution. Plus, the whole story is so fucking amazingly dramatic it sounds like it must have come from a novel or play.

9. Kim Jwa-jin - The Makhno or Durruti of the Korean Anarchist movement of his time, he was celebrated as a skilled military leader. Plus, he was assassinated while performing the humble task of repairing a rice mill, adding points for sincerity in my book.

10. Bakunin - Wild eyed, hairy, he's the perfect firebrand to inflame people's anger at the ruling class. I prefer Peter Kropotkin's long term views, but he was a bit too kindly and santa like to induce revolutionary fervor while there's revolt to be had.

Our symbol?
http://flag.blackened.net/anarpics/makhno_flag.jpg

[Killfacer]

I would have Nestor Makhno up front, because he would bang in goals. Stalin to play just behind him in the hole behind the lone striker. He would link up play, but also be the team Captain and the teams "enforcer". I would have Marx as my playmaker in the center of the park and he can spray out balls to the pacey wingmen; Durruti and Lenin who swing in balls for Makhno to knock in. In goal i would have Trotsky, he is good at organising his defence and commands the area well. A center back partnership of Mao and Che would give you the commanding presence of Mao and the speed and agility of Che. Che would make daring runs forward and link up with Marx. I would have Castro and Cafu on the wings. Cafu because he really is a good football player and Castro because he can make buckaneering runs up past Durruti.

[F9]

Bakunin(great keeper of barricades)

[RB]Marx(good counter)[CB]Marcos(Rock of Defense) [CB]Trotsky(fear of defenders)[LB]Castro(good tackle)
[DMF]Malatesta(good in counter and very helpful in organizing of the game)
[RMF]Makhno(the speedy side)[LMF]Emma Glodman(nnot fast but deadly)
[AMF]Durutti(the 10 of the team, playmaker and leader)(captain)
[CF}Stalin(killing machine) [CF]Che(aggressive attacker)

here you go!:lol::thumbup:
(my team plays in 1 and a half hours so i am a little affected:lol:)

[Blackscare]

Haha cool keep them coming people.

An added benefit of posting this is I have to learn a bit about soccer :D

[Pogue]

I'm in, can't post now, tired.

[More Fire for the People]

Marx
Lenin
Che
Mao
Trotsky
Gramsci
Meszaros
Zizek
Kollontai
Shlyapnikov

[Blackscare]

Jammoe had the idea of making this into more of an actual game (thanks), like finding a away for people to "win" or something. Any ideas on how we could do this?

I think maybe setting a date for the thread to be frozen/closed to new posts and then having the winning teams brought to a vote would be a cool idea, except that I don't really want to end the thread at some point (unless, say, we treated it as a season and started a new thread when enough people were ready to have a go at it again).

Any other ideas would be very welcome! Mods who could shed some light on the logistics of something like I said above would be welcome as well!

[Killfacer]

I like the idea, but i don't know how you would make iti a game. How would the dynamics work? Got anything in mind?

[jake williams]

I like the idea, but i don't know how you would make iti a game. How would the dynamics work? Got anything in mind?
This might be way too complicated, but my understanding of fantasy baseball is players have statistics and then based on those statistics you simulate games. We could maybe do something analogous to that?


ed: I'll put my list up soon.

[Angry Young Man]

Why did you say 10 in your opening post?

Goal - Engels
Defence - Trotsky, E. Marx, Newton, Sartre
Midfield - Castro, Neruda, Ho, Guevara
Strikers - K. Marx, Connoley

[Blackscare]

Why did you say 10 in your opening post?

Goal - Engels
Defence - Trotsky, E. Marx, Newton, Sartre
Midfield - Castro, Neruda, Ho, Guevara
Strikers - K. Marx, Connoley

To give breathing room to post what you want, plus it's not based on any one sport anyway. You know there are fantasy baseball and american football leagues too, right?

[Angry Young Man]

But only Americans play baseball. Football is international.

Why don't Americans play sports that other countries play?

[scarletghoul]

1. Michiro Endo
2. Mao
3. Kim Jwa Jin
4. Makhno
5. V
6. Chomsky
7. Vo Nguyen Giap
8. Carlos the Jackal
9. Castro
10. Marx

(no particular order)

[Blackscare]

But only Americans play baseball. Football is international.

Why don't Americans play sports that other countries play?

1. The Japanese and many Latin American countries love baseball.

2. Who cares what Americans play? We're geographically isolated from direct contact with other (non-Canadian) cultures that speak a common language, so we've developed along our own lines I guess. But really, it's not bad anyway.

3. No one said the teams had to be modeled on a particular sport, and I'm not sure if ten is even the number fielded at a time in American football. I picked ten because it's a solid number, it's even, and it's not one of those goddamn shifty prime numbers.

I think you're reading way too much into everything comrade. You'll notice that except for father Gapon, I don't even make any sports references. That's because I envisioned this being a "make your ideal revolutionary force" thread, not an "equate your favorite revolutionaries with soccer/AF/baseball/etc positions" thread (although those posts are cool as well, I found the ones I read to be creative and fascinating in the explanations given for people being in various positions). Lets stop this now, I can feel the thread getting off topic as I type.

[Blackscare]

1. Michiro Endo
2. Mao
3. Kim Jwa Jin
4. Makhno
5. V
6. Chomsky
7. Vo Nguyen Giap
8. Carlos the Jackal
9. Castro
10. Marx

(no particular order)

AHH Carlos! Forgot about him. He may have the coolest name yet.

[Angry Young Man]

A revolutionary force of 10 people? Where are you trying to take? San Marino?

And we're even more isolated from other countries with a common language. That's why everyone else cheats:lol:

[Blackscare]

A revolutionary force of 10 people? Where are you trying to take? San Marino?

And we're even more isolated from other countries with a common language. That's why everyone else cheats:lol:

Obviously I mean group of leaders or something... just stop overthinking! lol

[Angry Young Man]

iWE ARE ALL SAN MARINO!

[ZeroNowhere]

4-4-2 Diamond.

Engels in goal. The ball would contradict him, and thus we would score through the interpenetration of opposites.
DC: Gramsci - To defend from the opponent's use of cultural hegemony to win the support of the crowd.
DC: Leo Tolstoy: He would stand like a brick wall in defence, and never foul, as that would be against his principles.
DL: Pannekoek - He is best suited to playing on the left, and has astronomical amounts of skill.
DR: Satan - Fuck yes.
DM: Abbie Hoffman - He can steal the ball easily, and give great long balls that can lead to free goals.
ML: Bordiga - He's so 'sectarian' that he can dribble past his opponent's and score solo easily, rather than passing the ball off, which can get us a position on Goal of the Month/Week, and is so anti-democratic that he can completely dictate the tempo. Also, he's another player who is well suited to playing on the left.
MR: Che Guevara - Not an especially good player, but great for shirt sales.
AMC: Karl Marx (Captain) - Can easily cut right through the opponent's defence, and turn their own strategies against them.
FC: Eugene V. Debs - Gets the crowd going, and can surprise the opponent by suddenly turning from a reformist to a revolutionary.
FC: Daniel De Leon - Great strategist, who can kick with the power of an industrial union.

[Killfacer]

4-4-2 Diamond.

Engels in goal. The ball would contradict him, and thus we would score through the interpenetration of opposites.
DC: Gramsci - To defend from the opponent's use of cultural hegemony to win the support of the crowd.
DC: Leo Tolstoy: He would stand like a brick wall in defence, and never foul, as that would be against his principles.
DL: Pannekoek - He is best suited to playing on the left, and has astronomical amounts of skill.
DR: Satan - Fuck yes.
DM: Abbie Hoffman - He can steal the ball easily, and give great long balls that can lead to free goals.
ML: Bordiga - He's so 'sectarian' that he can dribble past his opponent's and score solo easily, rather than passing the ball off, which can get us a position on Goal of the Month/Week, and is so anti-democratic that he can completely dictate the tempo. Also, he's another player who is well suited to playing on the left.
MR: Che Guevara - Not an especially good player, but great for shirt sales.
AMC: Karl Marx (Captain) - Can easily cut right through the opponent's defence, and turn their own strategies against them.
FC: Eugene V. Debs - Gets the crowd going, and can surprise the opponent by suddenly turning from a reformist to a revolutionary.
FC: Daniel De Leon - Great strategist, who can kick with the power of an industrial union.

You're squad is very creative, but i feel they lack that cutting edge up front. Sure Daniel De Leon can hit them hard, but he isn't a predator in front of goal. Eugene is excellent on occasion but unless he get his consistancy sorted out then you will have problems scoring goals.

[ZeroNowhere]

You're squad is very creative, but i feel they lack that cutting edge up front. Sure Daniel De Leon can hit them hard, but he isn't a predator in front of goal. Eugene is excellent on occasion but unless he get his consistancy sorted out then you will have problems scoring goals.
I may have put Trotsky up front for his consistency, but unfortunately he sold out and signed up for Manchester United. What the hell.

[Angry Young Man]

I would have put Stalin in the squad, but I was worried he'd have the other ten killed.

Trotsky Rovers equalise:cool:

[Blackscare]

4-4-2 Diamond.

Engels in goal. The ball would contradict him, and thus we would score through the interpenetration of opposites.
DC: Gramsci - To defend from the opponent's use of cultural hegemony to win the support of the crowd.
DC: Leo Tolstoy: He would stand like a brick wall in defence, and never foul, as that would be against his principles.
DL: Pannekoek - He is best suited to playing on the left, and has astronomical amounts of skill.
DR: Satan - Fuck yes.
DM: Abbie Hoffman - He can steal the ball easily, and give great long balls that can lead to free goals.
ML: Bordiga - He's so 'sectarian' that he can dribble past his opponent's and score solo easily, rather than passing the ball off, which can get us a position on Goal of the Month/Week, and is so anti-democratic that he can completely dictate the tempo. Also, he's another player who is well suited to playing on the left.
MR: Che Guevara - Not an especially good player, but great for shirt sales.
AMC: Karl Marx (Captain) - Can easily cut right through the opponent's defence, and turn their own strategies against them.
FC: Eugene V. Debs - Gets the crowd going, and can surprise the opponent by suddenly turning from a reformist to a revolutionary.
FC: Daniel De Leon - Great strategist, who can kick with the power of an industrial union.
Uh, you misspelled stalin :p

[Angry Young Man]

No I didn't, and had I, that would not have been a goal.

[Blackscare]

No I didn't, and had I, that would not have been a goal.


...I read something about you lacking a sense of humor, figured I'd find out on my own...

[Blackscare]

Some people said they were in that haven't posted yet, just seeing if anyone else wants to have a go :D

[Angry Young Man]

'Bump' works as well.

[F9]

Uh, you misspelled stalin :p

hahaha gold, i want to give you rep!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Angry Young Man]

But I never mis-spelt Stalin. Unless I typoed and a mod sorted it, and would they really be arsed?

[Blackscare]

But I never mis-spelt Stalin. Unless I typoed and a mod sorted it, and would they really be arsed?
*plllp*

[jake williams]

I still intend to put my list up, I've just been busy.

[Angry Young Man]

:confused: at blackscare.

[Blackscare]

:confused: at blackscare.
that was an onomatopoeia that I pull out when I'm tired of arguing but I still want to express that you're irritating me :cursing:

[Dust Bunnies]

tl;dr

But Bogovich is epic win.

[Blackscare]

tl;dr

But Bogovich is epic win.

what's that mean?

[Bright Banana Beard]

what's that mean?

BOGOVICH is a famous troll here long time ago. He dream of Eurasia Communist State with the nationalism set extreme.

[ZeroNowhere]

what's that mean?
Too long; Didn't read.

[Black Dagger]

I dunno about the other 10 spots, but Maradona would be starting up front!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/montages/DiegoMaradona.jpg

:D

I'd pair him up front with Che with whom he has good chemistry. I'd run with two DMF's as well, though my initial pairing of Emma Goldman and Stalin prolly wouldn't work out...

[Killfacer]

though my initial pairing of Emma Goldman and Stalin prolly wouldn't work out...

They certainly have the talent, but i would wonder if they could work that well together.

[Black Dagger]

But they'd both make excellent holding midfielders IMO, with Red Emma playing a slightly more creative role from the back.

[Killfacer]

But they'd both make excellent holding midfielders IMO, with Red Emma playing a slightly more creative role from the back.

A kind of Xabi Alonso role then, protecting the back four but spraying out balls to the wing men. Yeah, i think she could do that well. Then you have Stalin as your Roy Keane/Patrick Veira hardman to give the midfield some strength.

[thecoffeecake1]

ok somethin like this

Keeper - Engels
LB - Vafiadis ( leader of communists in greek civil war )
RB - Zachriadis ( see above )
LCB - Trotsky
RCB - Marx
LM - Tito
RM - Lenin
CM - Moore ( member of SPUSA )
LW - Castro
RW - Stalin
ST - Guevera

[Killfacer]

Hmm, a five man midfield. Lacking a bit of firepower up front.

[Coggeh]

GK- Connolly
http://www.freewebs.com/jamesconnollyfb/connolly.gifThe GAA skills will come in handy ! :)

CB MARX
http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/east_karl_marx_tomb.jpgA literal pillar in defence :lol:

CB Trotsky
http://exiledonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/trotsky1.jpgNever takes his eye off the ball . :D(ok thats cruel ....)

and in centre midfield
Lenin
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Lenin-Trotsky_Red_Square.jpg
Shows leadership , which is key to any CM .

And in LB RB RM LM CAM FW and ST are the red guard ... for some reason :mellow: