View Full Version : Venezuelan synagogue desecrated
ls
1st February 2009, 01:53
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7863356.stm (venezuela.indymedia.org has not posted about this as of yet).
Glad to see a 100% intolerant and stern response by the Venezuelan Foreign Minister - "criminal act of vandalism", "reject these actions, with the same moral force with which we reject the crimes committed against the Palestinian people".
SocialRealist
1st February 2009, 02:03
I made a thread on anti-semitic actions earlier in January. I think this is happening more often due to the actions that Israel has done in Gaza and I think this is horrible that Synagogues and Jews are being hurt and discriminated against.
I would hope a proper investigation happens into this situation.
Blackscare
1st February 2009, 02:18
Glad to see a 100% intolerant and stern response
Intolerant would be fucking with people's shit because they belong to the same religion as a group of people doing bad things on the other side of the world.
A stern response is the least whoever did this deserves.
Intolerance isn't just bad if it's directed at black people or homosexuals, lets not create a double standard by saying it's fine to persecute peaceful religious people.
Nazis fucked up synagogues too. Hate crimes are an idiotic way of gathering support for something. Same goes for targeting and killing civilians. Wrong to do and bad PR. Some people act as if because Israel is wrong anything done as an act against them is acceptable.
Blackscare
1st February 2009, 02:24
Wait... I've had a string of threads I've posted in before realizing I had the meaning wrong...
Were you being sarcastic or serious about being "glad"? Use of the word intolerant is usually negative so I'm confused. :confused: Forgive me I'm slow :P
ls
1st February 2009, 10:42
Intolerant would be fucking with people's shit because they belong to the same religion as a group of people doing bad things on the other side of the world.
A stern response is the least whoever did this deserves.
Intolerance isn't just bad if it's directed at black people or homosexuals, lets not create a double standard by saying it's fine to persecute peaceful religious people.
Nazis fucked up synagogues too. Hate crimes are an idiotic way of gathering support for something. Same goes for targeting and killing civilians. Wrong to do and bad PR. Some people act as if because Israel is wrong anything done as an act against them is acceptable.
Intolerant just means intolerant, it isn't linked with homophobia or persecution of anyone necessarily.. intolerance of a crime for instance does not magically mean something stupid like "intolerance of the man who did the crime because he is black", it just means intolerance of the crime.
Buzzwords sure get some people going.
Edit: For goodness sake, please learn how to read! When you see "glad" and "intolerant" said by someone you automatically think "FASCIST".
Global_Justice
1st February 2009, 16:20
this is disgusting and the response from the supposedly socialist government is not enough. according to the report they ransacked the synagogue and called for jews to be expelled from the country. calling it simply an "act of vandelism" seems very dangerous to me.
ls
1st February 2009, 16:26
this is disgusting and the response from the supposedly socialist government is not enough. according to the report they ransacked the synagogue and called for jews to be expelled from the country. calling it simply an "act of vandelism" seems very dangerous to me.
I don't want to quote the whole story, that's why I gave you a link?
But Venezuelan Foreign Minister Nicolas Maduro condemned the "criminal act of vandalism" at the synagogue.
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"We call all the Venezuelan people, the entire Venezuelan community, to reject these actions, with the same moral force with which we reject the crimes committed against the Palestinian people," he said.
Venezuelan Information Minister Jesse Chacon also condemned the attack and denied it had any connection with the government.
He said the government's "excellent relationship" with Venezuela's Jewish community was in no way affected by Israel's actions.
How is that "calling it simply an act of vandelism". What's wrong with you?
Global_Justice
1st February 2009, 16:37
I don't want to quote the whole story, that's why I gave you a link?
How is that "calling it simply an act of vandelism". What's wrong with you?
i dont think its enough. it makes no mention of anti-semitism. that is unquestionably what this is and thats how it should be described. anti-semitic actions like this are becoming more and more common in the last few years and to see it happening in a country supposedly on the march to socialism is disgusting. as socialists the venezualan government should be taking a lead in the fight against this sort of thing.
ls
1st February 2009, 16:45
i dont think its enough.
I noticed.
it makes no mention of anti-semitism.
:lol: So even though he has said that there is an "excellent relationship" with the Jewish people in Venezuela and condemned it and said that the actions they've taken against the Israeli government don't come into play at all, it isn't enough because he doesn't add some stupid buzzword? Bloody hell.
that is unquestionably what this is and thats how it should be described. anti-semitic actions like this are becoming more and more common in the last few years and to see it happening in a country supposedly on the march to socialism is disgusting.
They are trying to crackdown on it from what I can see.
as socialists the venezualan government should be taking a lead in the fight against this sort of thing.
:confused: What makes them so different from other supposedly Socialist governments?
Dimentio
1st February 2009, 17:16
i dont think its enough. it makes no mention of anti-semitism. that is unquestionably what this is and thats how it should be described. anti-semitic actions like this are becoming more and more comimon in the last few years and to see it happening in a country supposedly on the march to socialism is disgusting. as socialists the venezualan government should be taking a lead in the fight against this sort of thing.
That they forgot to mention the word is not a sign of malevolent intentions.
Get a grip.
:)
Charles Xavier
1st February 2009, 18:51
Lets not forget he didn't praise Rosa Luxemburg or the international "communist" current either in the speech.
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