religion is wonderful

[casper]

:laugh:

seriously, what do you guys think of discordianism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordianism
or the church of the sub genius
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius

i read up on them and, well they seem rather amazing to me.

(for the acquirement of slack!!)

[trivas7]

They are both wonderful faiths! Robert Anton Wilson (of the Illuminati! trilogy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus%21_Trilogy)) loved discordianism. Hail Eris!

[Plagueround]

Robert Anton Wilson was amazing. When he died, even though he didn't want anyone to be sad, I still was.

[casper]

i figured we would have some fans in here,
i think i'm going to read the Principia discordia online here in the next couple days.

[casper]

"actually there was 5 goddesses but the Greeks didn't know the law of fives"- haha i love it!

[casper]

from:http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tilt/principia/body.html

"If you are not hot for philosophy, best just to skip it. The Aneristic Principle is that of APPARENT ORDER; the Eristic Principle is that of APPARENT DISORDER. Both order and disorder are man made concepts and are artificial divisions of PURE CHAOS, which is a level deeper that is the level of distinction making.
With our concept making apparatus called "mind" we look at reality through the ideas-about-reality which our cultures give us. The ideas-about- reality are mistakenly labeled "reality" and unenlightened people are forever perplexed by the fact that other people, especially other cultures, see "reality" differently. It is only the ideas-about-reality which differ. Real (capital-T True) reality is a level deeper that is the level of concept.
We look at the world through windows on which have been drawn grids (concepts). Different philosophies use different grids. A culture is a group of people with rather similar grids. Through a window we view chaos, and relate it to the points on our grid, and thereby understand it. The ORDER is in the GRID. That is the Aneristic Principle.
Western philosophy is traditionally concerned with contrasting one grid with another grid, and amending grids in hopes of finding a perfect one that will account for all reality and will, hence, (say unenlightened westerners) be True. This is illusory; it is what we Erisians call the ANERISTIC ILLUSION. Some grids can be more useful than others, some more beautiful than others, some more pleasant than others, etc., but none can be more True than any other.
DISORDER is simply unrelated information viewed through some particular grid. But, like "relation", no-relation is a concept. Male, like female, is an idea about sex. To say that male-ness is "absence of female-ness", or vice versa, is a matter of definition and metaphysically arbitrary. The artificial concept of no-relation is the ERISTIC PRINCIPLE.
The belief that "order is true" and disorder is false or somehow wrong, is the Aneristic Illusion. To say the same of disorder, is the ERISTIC ILLUSION.
The point is that (little-t) truth is a matter of definition relative to the grid one is using at the moment, and that (capital-T) Truth, metaphysical reality, is irrelevant to grids entirely. Pick a grid, and through it some chaos appears ordered and some appears disordered. Pick another grid, and the same chaos will appear differently ordered and disordered.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.


The words of the Foolish and those of the Wise
Are not far apart in Discordian Eyes.
(HBT; The Book of Advise, 2:1)"

wonderfull

[Ephydriad]

I've just converted to the Church of the SubGenius, praise be to "Bob"!

[Lord Testicles]

I've just converted to the Church of the SubGenius, praise be to "Bob"!

Another homo correctus. :thumbup1:

Praise Bob!

[casper]

power to the yetis!!
the black iron prison is a good book, as well as the principia discordia
the praise is bob's, but the goddess is my goddess ...

[Janine Melnitz]

Discordians and SubGenii are overwhelmingly Libertarian/"anarcho-capitalist" :rolleyes: