Italian Bombing

[Holden Caulfield]

If you read Italian:

E' una notizia di qualche giorno fa ma su vari giornali è riportato che a Verona è stata fatta esplodere nella notte una bomba alla sede di Casa Pound dove all'interno c'erano due neofascisti, che per un pelo non sono saltati in aria con la vetrata e saracinesca!! Prima volta in Italia che viene attaccata una sede di casa pound. I giornali riportano che a Verona tra nazi che uccidono, pestano, rapinano e aggrediscono, gente di tutti i tipi in centro, con vere e proprie squadre punitive...nella notte sempre più spesso ci sono sedi,esercizi commerciali e spazi in genere dei fascisti, che vanno a fuoco o saltano con bombe carta.Un anno fa un nazi, noto esponente della Fiamma, si è beccato un agguato da sconosciuti dove ha avuto 80 punti di lamate e la faccia e la testa spaccati. Dicono anche che a Verona c'è un vero e proprio clima di "guerra", sopratutto per conseguenza del pestaggio degli "eroici" fasci contro una ragazza, che forse perde un occhio per le botte prese!! Sbirri e giornalisti cercano di coprire in ogni modo i fasci, non dandogli una connotazione politica, ma solo dipingendoli come ragazzi "difficili" e un po' "sbandati"....mentre al contrario tra perquise, indagini e denunce, stanno pressando forte certe aree di compagni!! Se gira altro materiale in rete su le ultime di Verona si prega di postarlo...dato che si sa poco e sopratutto sembra che nell'ultimo periodo ci sia una tensione pesante a Verona sul fronte dell'antifascismo.

If you don't speak Italian:
Well though shit I cannot find a translation yet, but the long and short of things is that a bomb was exploded against the social centre of the Casa Pound Movement the neo-fascists third positionists. The two fascists inside the build were not blown up with it.

Verona is a hotbed of neo-nazi and neo-fascist activity with alot of institutional support from the mayor and police.
Some of you may remember the Casa Pound boneheads from the video of them getting trashed at Piazza Navona in rome last year.

[Raúl Duke]

Dicono anche che a Verona c'è un vero e proprio clima di "guerra", sopratutto per conseguenza del pestaggio degli "eroici" fasci contro una ragazza, che forse perde un occhio per le botte prese!!Seems to say something referring to Verona as a real "war zone" and something about a girl who may lose her eye cause she was attacked.


Prima volta in Italia che viene attaccata una sede di casa pound.Says first time that a Casa Pound HQ has been attacked in Italy.


Un anno fa un nazi, noto esponente della Fiamma, si è beccato un agguato da sconosciuti dove ha avuto 80 punti di lamate e la faccia e la testa spaccati.I think (not sure) this says that a year before a Nazi (an exponent of Fiamma?) attacked someone and stabbed them 80 times in the face and head.

The rest makes mention of journalists (calling them difficult kids and such) and, as Holden mentioned, a bomb

[Melbourne Lefty]

here is google trans


It 'a news story a few days ago but has several newspapers reported that in Verona have been exploding in the night a bomb at the house in Pound where there were two neo-fascists, by a hair that are not skipped in the air with the glass and sluice! First time in Italy that is attached to a home home pound. The newspapers report that in Verona between Nazi killing, pesto, robbery and assault, people of all types in the center, with real teams in the night ... punitive increasingly there are offices, shops and public areas in general Fascists, who go to jump or fire bombs carta.Un a Nazi years ago, known exponent of the Flame, has got an ambush by unknown where he had 80 points and lamate face and split his head. They say that in Verona, there is a genuine climate of "war", especially as a consequence of the beating of the "heroic" bundles against a girl, who may lose an eye for the cask taken! Cops and journalists trying to cover every possible beams, not giving it a political connotation, but only boys depicting as "difficult" and a little ' "".... sbandati while on the contrary between perquise, investigations and complaints are near Fort certain areas of comrades! If other material runs the network on the last of Verona please post ... because we know little, and especially in recent times it seems that there is a tension heavy Verona side dell'antifascismo.


Not great.

got a link Holden?

[Melbourne Lefty]

From the trans version of the Casapond website..

http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.casapound.org/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcasapound%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff

And Casapound on Italian Wikipedia, I had never heard of them before, apparently they are fascist squatters.

http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casapound&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=3&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcasapound%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff

[Melbourne Lefty]

From the trans version of the Casapond website. Looks like very little damage was done.

http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.casapound.org/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcasapound%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff

And Casapound on Italian Wikipedia, I had never heard of them before, apparently they are fascist squatters.

http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casapound&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=3&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcasapound%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff

[Dr Mindbender]

edit:

i posted a translation but melbourne lefty beat me to it.

Doh.

[jaffe]

national anarchists = racist bastards

please remove this link

[ls]

national anarchists = racist bastards

please remove this link

Correct. Apologies for this and the previous post - deleted (I didn't pay enough attention to that which I linked to *kicks self).

It also seems unfortunately that there are no left-wing centric videos on youtube, I took a look at the comments on some of the other ones listed and they were all Fascist. :(

I'll put in a request with indymedia to feed us a proper, translated version of the Italian report (they may even have videos).

[ls]

It seems no one is multilingual on there enough to do a translation. :(

bart on the main room gave me this though: http://www.gazzettino.it/articolo.php?id=43031&sez=NORDEST and translated http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gazzettino.it%2Fartic olo.php%3Fid%3D43031%26sez%3DNORDEST&sl=it&tl=en


VERONA (January 20) - A bomb, allegedly a paper bomb was exploded in front of the headquarters of the Cultural Center Micrograms in Verona, which also houses "Pound House", an association formed by young right-wing radical who in recent times are the protagonists of demonstration against banks and mortgage (lenders?).

The explosion damaged the sluice and shattered the window, a sentence of Ezra Pound: "The only culture that I recognize is that the ideas that become action." Sull'episodio investigates the Digos scaligera of the police. (?)

The attack on the headquarters of veronese "Pound House" is the latest in a series of incidents that took place as goals run by far-right militants frequented by sympathizers in that policy. At the end of November 2007 another paper bomb exploded at dawn in front of an inn in the district of Borgo Venezia, a meeting place for people close to the far right. A few days had been struck Camelot, clothing store Alessandro Castorina, leading the Fiamma Tricolore town that previously had been the subject of other arson attacks. Intimidation also at Black Brain, a room owned by Francis Mancini, another militant of the extreme right veronese. None of these acts has never been claimed.

"I do not want to be the end of the extreme left of the event which was held against the lock and Casapound Student last Saturday, in Verona. Comment on the case, Elena Donazzan, exponent of An and Regional Education, Training and Employment of Veneto, the explosion of a bomb in the city scaligera occurred last night.

"No claim - he explains - an attack that struck at night and to which he has avoided the worst thanks only to showcase anti-breaching which was equipped with the local."

"But if that was not - adds Donazzan-, I wonder what the consequences would be, since the time of the two boys were inside." "I wonder why a community of boys who work with skill, seriousness and steadfastness in the territory - continues - should pay because they opt for one that, obviously, is considered by some the wrong."

[Hostage]

E' una notizia di qualche giorno fa ma su vari giornali è riportato che a Verona è stata fatta esplodere nella notte una bomba alla sede di Casa Pound dove all'interno c'erano due neofascisti, che per un pelo non sono saltati in aria con la vetrata e saracinesca!! Prima volta in Italia che viene attaccata una sede di casa pound. I giornali riportano che a Verona tra nazi che uccidono, pestano, rapinano e aggrediscono, gente di tutti i tipi in centro, con vere e proprie squadre punitive...nella notte sempre più spesso ci sono sedi,esercizi commerciali e spazi in genere dei fascisti, che vanno a fuoco o saltano con bombe carta.Un anno fa un nazi, noto esponente della Fiamma, si è beccato un agguato da sconosciuti dove ha avuto 80 punti di lamate e la faccia e la testa spaccati. Dicono anche che a Verona c'è un vero e proprio clima di "guerra", sopratutto per conseguenza del pestaggio degli "eroici" fasci contro una ragazza, che forse perde un occhio per le botte prese!! Sbirri e giornalisti cercano di coprire in ogni modo i fasci, non dandogli una connotazione politica, ma solo dipingendoli come ragazzi "difficili" e un po' "sbandati"....mentre al contrario tra perquise, indagini e denunce, stanno pressando forte certe aree di compagni!! Se gira altro materiale in rete su le ultime di Verona si prega di postarlo...dato che si sa poco e sopratutto sembra che nell'ultimo periodo ci sia una tensione pesante a Verona sul fronte dell'antifascismo.



Well I'm late on this one, but i'll write you up a summary translated by myself.

It's a recent news which has been posted on alot of newspapers that a bomb has exploded in Casa Pound, Verona. Inside at the time of the explosion there were 2 neo-fascists which almost got blown up, but didn't.

It's the first time that Casa Pound has ever been attacked.

Newspapers report that in Verona.. where nazis; kill, beat people up, steal shit and attack any type of people in the center of verona with 'squads'.. always more frequently there are neo-fascist spaces and meeting places which are being blown up and set aflame.

Just a year ago a nazi, a well know member from some group called FIAMMA was ambushed by strangers and got stabbed(i think) 80 times including getting his face and skull broken.

They're saying that in Verona there is a real atmosphere of 'war' in consequence of the 'heroic' fascist beating of a girl which will possibly lose an eye because of the attack.

Newspapers and the police are trying to cover up the fascists by not attaching any politcal alignment to them, and only portraying them as 'just kids with difficult characters' or simply socially fucked up (something like that) when on the contrary through research and that stuff it is clear that they're (the police i think) are putting pressure on places occupied by comrades instead.

the last bit he's just asking about more info and more material about whats happening in verona because he's saying that there is great anti-fascist tension nowadays

*shit that was harder then i thought*

[Melbourne Lefty]

Does this sort of thing [explosives] just give the police a better excuse to protect fascists and crack down on the left?

I have seen a mass march against Casapound in Rome on Youtube. Why wouldnt that work in Verona.

[Holden Caulfield]

Does this sort of thing [explosives] just give the police a better excuse to protect fascists and crack down on the left?

I have seen a mass march against Casapound in Rome on Youtube. Why wouldnt that work in Verona.

I agree with you mostly, mass action (be that a mass 'blockade' of the building or storming the place or whatever) is always going to be more productive than acts of individual terrorism.

Placing bombs around is never a good idea, they are dangerous to everybody not just your intended targets. We have to remember we are the 'good guys' in this situation. I lost any repect for the IRA when they moved to civillian targets from military targets.

But any action we do against the fash is going to get them more protection so that part doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

[Melbourne Lefty]

I agree with you mostly, mass action (be that a mass 'blockade' of the building or storming the place or whatever) is always going to be more productive than acts of individual terrorism.


Yeah the Italians have done this sort of thing against Casapound in Rome, but I cant see anything against the other squats they have [and they have quite a few, so do various left forces, squatting seems to just be something you do in Italy].