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25th January 2009, 10:42
In their 'why join us' page (http://www.afed.org.uk/why_join_afed.html) they advise reading 'Beyond Resistance' (http://www.afed.org.uk/ace/manifest.html).
In our rich metropolises we see the emergence of the modern religions of workaholicism and sacrifice ..
What precisely is wrong with that? Non-religious sacrifice, genuine unselfish sacrifice of something you place importance in for someone else's benefit are important I'd have thought? Especially within Anarchist-Communism.
What is your take on this?
Doing a quick google search for sacrifice on Anarchist websites I found a few posts on anarchistnews.org http://www.anarchistnews.org/?q=node/5966#comment-66304
self sacrifice is not becoming rhetoric as far as i am concerned. why should revolt be about sacrifice? are not our lives sacrificed now as it is, are not these already the terms, is not consumerism just a petty compensation for our alienated, do as your told, lives? one more: are we not constantly being told by this society what our duty is? the vision should be phrased as a gain, not as a sacrifice. but i digress...my point is that there are a diverse array of ways to engage in some form of revolt, dropping out is only one of these, let's not fetish any of them.
-lord rambler
Scroll down on that page..
mainly i bring this up because a lot of people, especially the ones who talk about self sacrifice, think that they know what is in other peoples best interest. i don't know you so i don't know if you are one of these but in my opinion the idea of there being something that is best for everyone, period, such a brushing over of our differences, is the dangerous stuff of dystopias: every utopia, since no two of us think alike, can only result in dystopia because of this: what of the people who can't fit, don't fit, and don't want to fit? this is why i hate mass society: we have never been the type of animal, we are closer to wolves than ants, we are more of a pack animal.
http://www.anarchistnews.org/?q=node/5966#comment-66323
Submitted by anon on Sat, 2009-01-10 11:14.
"Self-sacrifice", indeed. The clarion call of every tyrant, everywhere.
Think for yourself.
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Submitted by garthelious on Sat, 2009-01-10 18:07.
Exactly what I was thinking, and for myself of course.
I used to trust environmentalists! ;)
Clearly I'm aware this does not represent, by any means, *all* or the majority views of the aforementioned believers and organisations in anarch-communism but, it seems to be a fairly common one.
In our rich metropolises we see the emergence of the modern religions of workaholicism and sacrifice ..
What precisely is wrong with that? Non-religious sacrifice, genuine unselfish sacrifice of something you place importance in for someone else's benefit are important I'd have thought? Especially within Anarchist-Communism.
What is your take on this?
Doing a quick google search for sacrifice on Anarchist websites I found a few posts on anarchistnews.org http://www.anarchistnews.org/?q=node/5966#comment-66304
self sacrifice is not becoming rhetoric as far as i am concerned. why should revolt be about sacrifice? are not our lives sacrificed now as it is, are not these already the terms, is not consumerism just a petty compensation for our alienated, do as your told, lives? one more: are we not constantly being told by this society what our duty is? the vision should be phrased as a gain, not as a sacrifice. but i digress...my point is that there are a diverse array of ways to engage in some form of revolt, dropping out is only one of these, let's not fetish any of them.
-lord rambler
Scroll down on that page..
mainly i bring this up because a lot of people, especially the ones who talk about self sacrifice, think that they know what is in other peoples best interest. i don't know you so i don't know if you are one of these but in my opinion the idea of there being something that is best for everyone, period, such a brushing over of our differences, is the dangerous stuff of dystopias: every utopia, since no two of us think alike, can only result in dystopia because of this: what of the people who can't fit, don't fit, and don't want to fit? this is why i hate mass society: we have never been the type of animal, we are closer to wolves than ants, we are more of a pack animal.
http://www.anarchistnews.org/?q=node/5966#comment-66323
Submitted by anon on Sat, 2009-01-10 11:14.
"Self-sacrifice", indeed. The clarion call of every tyrant, everywhere.
Think for yourself.
»
Submitted by garthelious on Sat, 2009-01-10 18:07.
Exactly what I was thinking, and for myself of course.
I used to trust environmentalists! ;)
Clearly I'm aware this does not represent, by any means, *all* or the majority views of the aforementioned believers and organisations in anarch-communism but, it seems to be a fairly common one.